1 00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:03,770 on today's podcast we are joined by 2 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:07,440 elevated Josh you all may know him from 3 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:10,080 his previous podcast with hero 4 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,200 paranormal where he discusses basically 5 00:00:18,109 --> 00:00:15,599 finding all kinds of entrances into 6 00:00:21,890 --> 00:00:18,119 underground possible bases and 7 00:00:24,349 --> 00:00:21,900 facilities in Utah he's out there in the 8 00:00:26,689 --> 00:00:24,359 field quite often and today he was on 9 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:26,699 site doing some work up in the mountains 10 00:00:34,330 --> 00:00:30,960 I believe elevated as usual and out in 11 00:00:37,549 --> 00:00:34,340 the uh scenery that makes Utah so famous 12 00:00:41,450 --> 00:00:37,559 elevated Josh is going to touch base 13 00:00:44,270 --> 00:00:41,460 with us and go into the interesting 14 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:44,280 claims that the government and military 15 00:00:50,450 --> 00:00:47,040 have continued to deny that they have 16 00:00:52,970 --> 00:00:50,460 evidence of any such program retrieving 17 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:52,980 reverse engineered 18 00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:56,879 craft and materials technology for lack 19 00:01:00,049 --> 00:00:58,920 of a better word and keeping it from the 20 00:01:03,349 --> 00:01:00,059 public 21 00:01:07,130 --> 00:01:03,359 recently David grush 22 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:07,140 has become a whistleblower during an 23 00:01:12,289 --> 00:01:09,600 interview with journalist Ross kohlhart 24 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:12,299 that aired on news Nation 25 00:01:16,570 --> 00:01:14,640 and in that interview he claimed that 26 00:01:19,609 --> 00:01:16,580 the United States retains multiple 27 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:19,619 technology assets craft reverse 28 00:01:25,730 --> 00:01:22,560 engineered materials and that they come 29 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:25,740 from non-human intelligence 30 00:01:31,730 --> 00:01:28,320 this becomes very relevant when it comes 31 00:01:34,490 --> 00:01:31,740 to the case of a possible Alien 32 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:34,500 Encounter in Las Vegas which may have 33 00:01:43,969 --> 00:01:41,630 and it gets even stranger 34 00:01:46,270 --> 00:01:43,979 when you realize there may be a 35 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:46,280 psychological operation taking place 36 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:49,320 possibly with 37 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:52,020 United States military contractors at 38 00:01:58,609 --> 00:01:55,500 the helm those who in fact have the 39 00:02:01,730 --> 00:01:58,619 ability to utilize such technology 40 00:02:05,929 --> 00:02:01,740 to make a family believe that they saw 41 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:05,939 an alien spacecraft and aliens in their 42 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:07,140 backyard 43 00:02:14,809 --> 00:02:09,780 I've been told that the ability to make 44 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:14,819 these organic robotoids or robotic 45 00:02:20,809 --> 00:02:17,520 entities that appear to be much like 46 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:20,819 what is described is feasible 47 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:22,260 and 48 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:32,640 what we should make of these 49 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:35,599 extraordinary claims if you have not 50 00:02:41,330 --> 00:02:40,080 become a patron to Hero paranormal I 51 00:02:44,030 --> 00:02:41,340 highly suggest going to 52 00:02:46,670 --> 00:02:44,040 heroparanormal.com 53 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:46,680 and for the price of a cup of coffee a 54 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:48,480 month you get everything behind the 55 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:51,180 paywall that's a ton of content the 56 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:54,420 whole enchilada you can also go to 57 00:03:00,530 --> 00:02:56,879 patreon and search for hero paranormal 58 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:00,540 and access it that way 59 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:03,660 also if you have not subscribed to Hero 60 00:03:08,570 --> 00:03:05,580 paranormal on YouTube please help me 61 00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:08,580 break through the algorithm of control I 62 00:03:13,729 --> 00:03:11,400 will most likely never be monetized due 63 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:13,739 to a variety of reasons on YouTube 64 00:03:18,729 --> 00:03:16,800 however if you like subscribe and share 65 00:03:22,009 --> 00:03:18,739 the podcast at least people can hear it 66 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:22,019 and the shadow band can somewhat be 67 00:03:31,430 --> 00:03:27,589 let's get to it 68 00:03:35,869 --> 00:03:31,440 buckle up for a strange ride 69 00:03:38,270 --> 00:03:35,879 into the alleged private sector programs 70 00:03:42,130 --> 00:03:38,280 contractors 71 00:03:44,089 --> 00:03:42,140 and others who retrieve and exploit 72 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:44,099 unidentified 73 00:03:49,850 --> 00:03:47,340 Ariel phenomena 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:49,860 which according to whistleblowers is not 75 00:04:28,450 --> 00:04:07,390 [Music] 76 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,010 Josh welcome to the hero paranormal 77 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:33,120 podcast 78 00:04:35,570 --> 00:04:34,800 how's it going man it's good to talk to 79 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:35,580 you again 80 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:38,400 going good weird times weird times we've 81 00:04:43,969 --> 00:04:40,500 got an Alien Encounter in Las Vegas 82 00:04:47,629 --> 00:04:43,979 going viral on social media for you know 83 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:47,639 a variety of reasons we have aliens and 84 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:51,000 UFOs being a very big Topic in recent 85 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,040 months and there's you know the whole 86 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:55,440 Chinese spy balloon Fiasco 87 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:57,840 and of course David Grouch Former 88 00:05:01,490 --> 00:04:59,520 Intelligence official whistleblower 89 00:05:04,610 --> 00:05:01,500 claiming the United States has been up 90 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:04,620 to uh deceiving the public with the 91 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:07,020 trend so hot on people's minds I know 92 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:09,180 that you've done extensive research into 93 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:10,020 this 94 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:13,199 and not only how the police interacted 95 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:15,180 with the family who claimed to see this 96 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:18,000 but how the family's claims have changed 97 00:05:22,370 --> 00:05:19,800 over time what are your thoughts overall 98 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:22,380 of what's taking place like with the UFO 99 00:05:27,170 --> 00:05:24,600 climate right now 100 00:05:28,969 --> 00:05:27,180 you know it 101 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:28,979 s situation as we were talking about 102 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:31,199 just a second ago this one feels a 103 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,820 little bit different 104 00:05:36,650 --> 00:05:34,800 um the timeline over the last 105 00:05:38,510 --> 00:05:36,660 about well it's been over a month over a 106 00:05:40,909 --> 00:05:38,520 month and a half uh about a month and a 107 00:05:43,390 --> 00:05:40,919 half now since this all started has uh 108 00:05:46,249 --> 00:05:43,400 been definitely eye-catching it's been 109 00:05:48,110 --> 00:05:46,259 it's raised my curiosity to the point 110 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:48,120 where there's so many pieces of evidence 111 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:51,060 in this story uh that are 112 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,080 so scattered about and also numerous 113 00:06:00,590 --> 00:05:57,600 that it's hard to just look at this as a 114 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:00,600 hoax or something uh you know that the 115 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:02,340 average person would look at and dismiss 116 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:05,820 as a crazy new story because you have so 117 00:06:10,249 --> 00:06:07,199 many different pieces of evidence that 118 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:10,259 corroborate the same story here it seems 119 00:06:15,129 --> 00:06:13,860 like either this was actually what 120 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:15,139 happened something 121 00:06:21,290 --> 00:06:17,759 extraterrestrial non-human landed in the 122 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:21,300 family's backyard or my personal other 123 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:25,740 theory is that this is it happened but 124 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:28,560 100 isn't what we're seeing it as or has 125 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:31,440 Isn't has been portrayed 126 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:33,300 um it's it's really interesting I I 127 00:06:36,170 --> 00:06:34,560 don't know what to believe I'm not 128 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:36,180 trying to stick to one thing because the 129 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:38,520 story is changing so much I I don't want 130 00:06:42,350 --> 00:06:40,440 to solidify my belief because you get 131 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,360 thrown a curveball every day with this 132 00:06:47,930 --> 00:06:44,400 kind of stuff and when it originally 133 00:06:49,610 --> 00:06:47,940 started we had uh we had the Kid come 134 00:06:51,469 --> 00:06:49,620 out you know with the video so we had 135 00:06:53,390 --> 00:06:51,479 the first few videos that I could find 136 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:53,400 online were the fence video with this 137 00:06:56,809 --> 00:06:54,720 creature standing behind the fence and 138 00:06:58,850 --> 00:06:56,819 the whole family armed standing outside 139 00:07:00,590 --> 00:06:58,860 the fence clearly terrified about what's 140 00:07:02,809 --> 00:07:00,600 going on on the other side of this fence 141 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:02,819 uh you have you know the ring doorbell 142 00:07:10,210 --> 00:07:05,039 camera video the police body cam video 143 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:10,220 of this thing this object Landing uh or 144 00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:13,560 seemingly cruising past the backyard 145 00:07:17,390 --> 00:07:15,660 it's hard to tell by the angle but all 146 00:07:19,969 --> 00:07:17,400 these videos and all this information 147 00:07:21,950 --> 00:07:19,979 you had come out at first I didn't find 148 00:07:24,830 --> 00:07:21,960 out until a week after I started looking 149 00:07:26,089 --> 00:07:24,840 into it this was been happening and you 150 00:07:27,290 --> 00:07:26,099 know it was in May I thought it had 151 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:27,300 happened you know what a week and a half 152 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:29,280 two weeks ago when it was first released 153 00:07:33,230 --> 00:07:31,199 which was the first thing that threw me 154 00:07:35,809 --> 00:07:33,240 off and I'm kind of jumping around here 155 00:07:38,270 --> 00:07:35,819 but the news nation is a really big 156 00:07:41,450 --> 00:07:38,280 point in the story I I know the 157 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:41,460 Washington Post wanted to do a little 158 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:43,280 bit more research before they actually 159 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:45,840 went with the story they wanted to do 160 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:48,479 some more reporting and on the ground uh 161 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:49,979 you know investigating before they came 162 00:07:54,529 --> 00:07:52,020 out with it I guess many more times 163 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:54,539 decided to just pass it up but 164 00:07:58,969 --> 00:07:56,940 the two journalists who were from the 165 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,979 debrief that are involved in getting 166 00:08:02,629 --> 00:08:00,240 their story out they've done great 167 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:02,639 journalism in the past and when they 168 00:08:07,490 --> 00:08:05,280 handed it off the news Nation uh who 169 00:08:09,290 --> 00:08:07,500 essentially I think for most people 170 00:08:11,089 --> 00:08:09,300 broke the news there was the debrief 171 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,099 article but I think your average person 172 00:08:15,950 --> 00:08:13,680 on the street or average yeah news feed 173 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:15,960 scroller most of them the first time 174 00:08:20,029 --> 00:08:17,940 they saw Wars in these news Nation 175 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:20,039 reports and I haven't done a lot of 176 00:08:24,589 --> 00:08:22,080 investigating into them as a company 177 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:24,599 personally but I find it very strange 178 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:26,400 that the debrief change the story off 179 00:08:33,469 --> 00:08:29,400 the news nation in some way or another 180 00:08:35,170 --> 00:08:33,479 the news Nation posted it one of my main 181 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:35,180 concerns is 182 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:38,880 I have seen videos and different things 183 00:08:42,290 --> 00:08:40,860 people are posting that I cannot find 184 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:42,300 this working for they didn't come from 185 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:44,940 Angel and his family themselves it's not 186 00:08:48,410 --> 00:08:46,800 police footage 187 00:08:50,509 --> 00:08:48,420 um the video you sent me yesterday is 188 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,519 interesting that video didn't make sense 189 00:08:54,350 --> 00:08:52,560 compared to the other ones and there's 190 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:54,360 been a lot of things I've seen in the 191 00:08:57,710 --> 00:08:55,800 last few weeks so don't add up the 192 00:08:59,150 --> 00:08:57,720 algorithms when you search for a lot of 193 00:09:02,870 --> 00:08:59,160 these videos 194 00:09:05,210 --> 00:09:02,880 um our YouTube or misdirecting you or uh 195 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:05,220 completely obscuring videos from your 196 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:07,620 feed so essentially I've spoken with 197 00:09:11,690 --> 00:09:09,959 this about this topic as far as the 198 00:09:13,550 --> 00:09:11,700 misdirection the algorithms goes there's 199 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:13,560 a few people I work with other people 200 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:15,600 that I talk to in the community and I 201 00:09:19,310 --> 00:09:17,040 seem to be getting the same story from 202 00:09:23,090 --> 00:09:19,320 my own personal experience on others but 203 00:09:24,889 --> 00:09:23,100 there seems to be quite a confusing 204 00:09:26,449 --> 00:09:24,899 misdirection campaign going here but 205 00:09:28,730 --> 00:09:26,459 it's really ambiguous and it's really 206 00:09:31,310 --> 00:09:28,740 low-lying too I I've picked up some 207 00:09:33,530 --> 00:09:31,320 patterns in this misdirection and other 208 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:33,540 people have too but it's hard to tell 209 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:35,040 with the way the information is changed 210 00:09:41,810 --> 00:09:39,120 and with how very few real sources of 211 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:41,820 info we have here that it's hard to get 212 00:09:48,410 --> 00:09:46,080 a full picture of who or is exactly uh 213 00:09:51,170 --> 00:09:48,420 behind this misdirection package or 214 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:51,180 tactics because I mean if you pay 215 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:52,560 attention to the subject you know most 216 00:09:56,210 --> 00:09:54,240 of us know that there's different 217 00:09:57,650 --> 00:09:56,220 probably different fact and you've been 218 00:09:59,930 --> 00:09:57,660 fighting over this in the government you 219 00:10:01,610 --> 00:09:59,940 might have people that I want to expose 220 00:10:04,009 --> 00:10:01,620 the truth and get other people that want 221 00:10:06,110 --> 00:10:04,019 to use these Technologies for nefarious 222 00:10:09,290 --> 00:10:06,120 things uh you know so control and power 223 00:10:11,690 --> 00:10:09,300 schemes and uh I it's hard to tell at 224 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:11,700 this point Who's acting and when 225 00:10:15,530 --> 00:10:13,200 um there's a few people I trust in the 226 00:10:17,329 --> 00:10:15,540 field you're one of them I trust George 227 00:10:20,090 --> 00:10:17,339 Knapp for the most part I definitely 228 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:20,100 trust George or Doug Papa 229 00:10:24,769 --> 00:10:22,980 um there's a lot of other Goods uh 230 00:10:26,570 --> 00:10:24,779 people that have reposted videos and 231 00:10:28,810 --> 00:10:26,580 collected the information online uh 232 00:10:31,730 --> 00:10:28,820 chaos Moogle is one of them on YouTube 233 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:31,740 uh he's done a really good job of 234 00:10:35,329 --> 00:10:33,660 collecting all the information putting 235 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:35,339 it into a digestible format that people 236 00:10:39,769 --> 00:10:37,980 can watch so if you if anyone out there 237 00:10:41,449 --> 00:10:39,779 wants to see some of these a lot of this 238 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:41,459 information in one spot go to chaos 239 00:10:45,050 --> 00:10:43,560 Google's YouTube he's a good one uh from 240 00:10:46,850 --> 00:10:45,060 Angel as well as the you know 241 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:46,860 surrounding neighborhood that 242 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:49,200 are are really weird um you know the 243 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:51,060 camera is installed on the light pole 244 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:52,800 behind the house it's an interesting one 245 00:10:56,810 --> 00:10:53,880 I find 246 00:10:58,190 --> 00:10:56,820 uh the change in angels Behavior could 247 00:11:00,710 --> 00:10:58,200 be another 248 00:11:02,569 --> 00:11:00,720 interesting topic of conversation they 249 00:11:05,389 --> 00:11:02,579 seem to be changes in the story from the 250 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:05,399 family like you said and it's hard to 251 00:11:10,610 --> 00:11:07,980 nail down exactly besides from what Doug 252 00:11:12,410 --> 00:11:10,620 says on his YouTube and his podcast what 253 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:12,420 exactly is going on I've tried to reach 254 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,700 out to the officers myself haven't been 255 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:16,079 able to get a hold of them from what 256 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:19,680 I've been told by people in the area and 257 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:21,480 from what Doug has said to that 258 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:22,560 apparently 259 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:24,300 you know the police aren't really making 260 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:27,240 a lot of comment on this as of you know 261 00:11:31,069 --> 00:11:29,399 when they said a few days ago that their 262 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:31,079 officers were important that showed up 263 00:11:35,090 --> 00:11:33,060 to that to the house the second time 264 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:35,100 saying we also have that we have the I 265 00:11:40,730 --> 00:11:38,279 guess this pair of uh ambiguous no-name 266 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:40,740 agents that have been creeping around I 267 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:41,760 don't know I don't know if they're still 268 00:11:45,050 --> 00:11:43,680 you living here and you might have a 269 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:45,060 better idea this I don't know if you've 270 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:47,040 gone out there but I mean I don't know 271 00:11:50,329 --> 00:11:48,300 if there's still a government agents 272 00:11:53,870 --> 00:11:50,339 creeping around there but there is 273 00:11:56,509 --> 00:11:53,880 enough of a response uh from authorities 274 00:11:59,870 --> 00:11:56,519 in this and enough pieces of evidence to 275 00:12:01,550 --> 00:11:59,880 have you stay and believe 100 I feel 276 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:01,560 like empirically at this point that it 277 00:12:06,530 --> 00:12:04,200 if something happened obviously but the 278 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:06,540 question is not at this point if it's 279 00:12:12,050 --> 00:12:09,360 real or not but what it was and so I 280 00:12:13,790 --> 00:12:12,060 think once hopefully more people can get 281 00:12:15,350 --> 00:12:13,800 a hold of this information by Justin a 282 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:15,360 little bit and realize that that's the 283 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:16,980 question we need to be asking instead of 284 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,560 getting stuck on the is this real or is 285 00:12:23,329 --> 00:12:21,600 this a hope a joke kind of thing because 286 00:12:25,310 --> 00:12:23,339 that's what a lot of people need to move 287 00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:25,320 past right now and I'm hoping you know 288 00:12:29,509 --> 00:12:27,000 getting out there telling people about 289 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:29,519 it talking about it it gets more of us 290 00:12:33,949 --> 00:12:31,980 uh you don't want to state of mind that 291 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:33,959 we're not so scared to start addressing 292 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:36,300 these subjects because it sounds 293 00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:38,100 absolutely insane you know when you tell 294 00:12:42,850 --> 00:12:40,560 people like hey you know uh Las Vegas I 295 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:42,860 guess last month uh 296 00:12:47,389 --> 00:12:45,000 when you planted in someone's backyard 297 00:12:48,170 --> 00:12:47,399 and it seemingly is real and the most 298 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:48,180 people 299 00:12:53,329 --> 00:12:50,880 yeah they laugh uh they they make a 300 00:12:55,490 --> 00:12:53,339 quick joke about it uh when when you say 301 00:12:58,250 --> 00:12:55,500 stuff and it's I understand I completely 302 00:13:00,650 --> 00:12:58,260 understand like it's an anxiety inducing 303 00:13:03,470 --> 00:13:00,660 uh topic when you really get down to it 304 00:13:05,329 --> 00:13:03,480 and I'm just hoping that we can 305 00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:05,339 collectively relieve some of that 306 00:13:12,769 --> 00:13:08,940 anxiety in people because this is these 307 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:12,779 two situations as far as David uh in 308 00:13:16,610 --> 00:13:14,700 Vegas you know I do believe they're 309 00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:16,620 intertwined I don't believe that just 310 00:13:22,190 --> 00:13:18,120 the coincidence that they happen because 311 00:13:22,850 --> 00:13:22,200 in the same time period so this is a 312 00:13:26,449 --> 00:13:22,860 different 313 00:13:29,329 --> 00:13:26,459 like there might be an avalanche 314 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:29,339 starting uh as far as the cheers embargo 315 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:31,680 goes and disclosure goes and I hate 316 00:13:36,829 --> 00:13:34,560 using those two terms but you know it's 317 00:13:38,569 --> 00:13:36,839 true like there is a truth embargo and 318 00:13:41,090 --> 00:13:38,579 we need some disclosure we need another 319 00:13:44,110 --> 00:13:41,100 way that the public can accept that a 320 00:13:47,569 --> 00:13:46,250 but also at the same time something 321 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:47,579 that's going to benefit us and they'll 322 00:13:55,129 --> 00:13:51,720 be headings areas weaponized purposes so 323 00:13:57,530 --> 00:13:55,139 hopefully uh this is Phase One of 324 00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:57,540 something that is going to change human 325 00:14:01,250 --> 00:13:59,519 history for 326 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:01,260 eternity and that's what I'm excited 327 00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:03,060 about and that's why I want other people 328 00:14:06,769 --> 00:14:04,860 to hopefully get excited about is this 329 00:14:08,269 --> 00:14:06,779 is uh if this is true which it is by 330 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:08,279 seeing myself a lot of other people have 331 00:14:11,569 --> 00:14:09,720 seen it themselves and I know it's true 332 00:14:13,190 --> 00:14:11,579 we're just waiting for the right pieces 333 00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:13,200 of evidence for everyone else to believe 334 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:15,300 it's true and uh I hope that happens 335 00:14:19,069 --> 00:14:16,980 soon man because I'm really really 336 00:14:22,190 --> 00:14:19,079 excited about all this 337 00:14:22,910 --> 00:14:22,200 yeah there's there's a lot to this 338 00:14:24,829 --> 00:14:22,920 um 339 00:14:26,930 --> 00:14:24,839 and there's there's a lot to the players 340 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:26,940 as well a lot of people who have asked 341 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,600 who is Doug Papa especially after the YC 342 00:14:34,730 --> 00:14:32,160 dot news 343 00:14:37,190 --> 00:14:34,740 um you know uh 344 00:14:42,110 --> 00:14:37,200 thing that came out about him we know 345 00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:42,120 that he is an ex-police officer and uh 346 00:14:45,949 --> 00:14:44,519 there there's there's a lot there 347 00:14:48,350 --> 00:14:45,959 um that has to do with surveillance I 348 00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:48,360 won't get into all of all of uh all that 349 00:14:55,129 --> 00:14:52,380 credibility for sure and um but he is an 350 00:14:58,430 --> 00:14:55,139 interesting character and I I was hooked 351 00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:58,440 up I was blown away by the the the June 352 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:59,760 16th 353 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:01,440 um 2023 354 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:05,160 which is today the uh the article that 355 00:15:11,509 --> 00:15:08,760 came out at YC news 356 00:15:13,310 --> 00:15:11,519 um yeah what is with that gate it's such 357 00:15:15,650 --> 00:15:13,320 a mystery so 358 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:15,660 uh essentially what happened there I 359 00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:17,100 haven't had too much of a chance to read 360 00:15:22,189 --> 00:15:19,320 about that I 361 00:15:25,610 --> 00:15:22,199 yeah a little bit about it so 362 00:15:27,949 --> 00:15:25,620 um basically uh it I don't I don't like 363 00:15:31,009 --> 00:15:27,959 to talk badly about people but it's an 364 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:31,019 interesting if you go to yc.news there's 365 00:15:36,050 --> 00:15:33,899 a very interesting article which is uh I 366 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:36,060 believe it's called who is Doug Papa off 367 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:37,980 the top of my head 368 00:15:43,250 --> 00:15:41,040 um and it's it's interesting because it 369 00:15:45,949 --> 00:15:43,260 does play into all of this that there's 370 00:15:49,930 --> 00:15:45,959 a lot of interesting 371 00:15:53,629 --> 00:15:49,940 um coincidences you know uh and and 372 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:53,639 there is there is you know as you said 373 00:15:58,250 --> 00:15:56,160 there seems to be something going on 374 00:16:02,090 --> 00:15:58,260 with the media I agree a hundred percent 375 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,100 with that and I've been told that news 376 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:04,560 nation is actually owned by the parent 377 00:16:11,629 --> 00:16:07,680 company that owns klas Channel 8 news 378 00:16:13,490 --> 00:16:11,639 which is that's what I read yeah yeah so 379 00:16:16,009 --> 00:16:13,500 that's the same news that's the I news 380 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:16,019 uh basically the same News Network that 381 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,820 George Knapp works for 382 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:19,680 and 383 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:25,440 started out as a fledgling organization 384 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:29,760 uh did not have you know was not in the 385 00:16:33,710 --> 00:16:31,440 same throws it seems like everything is 386 00:16:36,410 --> 00:16:33,720 just CNN and fox anymore so it's kind of 387 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:36,420 nice to get you know a more independent 388 00:16:42,590 --> 00:16:39,060 news corporation which will report on 389 00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:42,600 this stuff at all and that brings uh the 390 00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:47,519 the other point which is you know Forbes 391 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:51,660 um The Guardian New York Magazine uh 392 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:54,180 many Washington Post like you said many 393 00:16:59,689 --> 00:16:56,880 of these other organizations are have 394 00:17:01,249 --> 00:16:59,699 attacked David Grouch the UFO 395 00:17:08,049 --> 00:17:01,259 whistleblower 396 00:17:12,890 --> 00:17:10,549 it's really disgusting in my opinion 397 00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:12,900 yeah and what I like about news nation 398 00:17:17,630 --> 00:17:15,720 is that they you know uh with Ross they 399 00:17:20,569 --> 00:17:17,640 were the ones that actually broke that 400 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:20,579 amazing interview too so there's kind of 401 00:17:26,929 --> 00:17:22,980 two counts here where news nation has 402 00:17:29,210 --> 00:17:26,939 sort of um broken UFO 403 00:17:30,669 --> 00:17:29,220 whistleblower in in the case of David 404 00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:30,679 grosh 405 00:17:35,810 --> 00:17:33,900 and now they've broken kind of like you 406 00:17:39,169 --> 00:17:35,820 said other than the debrief they've 407 00:17:40,850 --> 00:17:39,179 broken the Las Vegas Alien Encounter and 408 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:40,860 I've heard 409 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:43,919 um actually from Greer that this was 410 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:46,500 mainly because many of the larger news 411 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:49,860 corporations are still controlled by 412 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:52,799 some way shape or form yeah so it takes 413 00:17:59,930 --> 00:17:56,100 it takes these it takes these smaller 414 00:18:01,669 --> 00:17:59,940 news organizations to actually uh have 415 00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:01,679 these things out and it's kind of 416 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,840 difficult to follow news Nation because 417 00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:06,000 as you said it's not like CNN it's not 418 00:18:11,570 --> 00:18:08,039 Fox it's not one of these bigger 419 00:18:15,230 --> 00:18:11,580 bigger groups and it's it's trying to 420 00:18:16,669 --> 00:18:15,240 stay with what's going on but after you 421 00:18:18,610 --> 00:18:16,679 know after looking at the whole 422 00:18:21,409 --> 00:18:18,620 situation and looking at the whole 423 00:18:24,529 --> 00:18:21,419 You've you've done exhaustive research 424 00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:24,539 on this and while the idea of aliens 425 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:27,720 Landing in Las Vegas is Wild Las Vegas 426 00:18:31,070 --> 00:18:29,940 has a pretty long history of this sort 427 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:31,080 of thing 428 00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:34,559 it may just take it you know it's just 429 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:36,059 strange you know 430 00:18:40,610 --> 00:18:36,960 um 431 00:18:43,370 --> 00:18:40,620 it's been a Hot Topic and what is your 432 00:18:45,529 --> 00:18:43,380 thoughts which have emerged from the 433 00:18:48,529 --> 00:18:45,539 family that claim to see these in their 434 00:18:51,169 --> 00:18:48,539 yard after I seemingly interesting 435 00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:51,179 object fell from the sky 436 00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:53,640 so it seems like at this point you know 437 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:55,860 obviously that it was real uh what's for 438 00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:57,840 the videos we have the fence video we 439 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:00,480 have analysis uh it's been done on the 440 00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:03,140 fence video image cropping uh Zoom 441 00:19:07,789 --> 00:19:05,940 contrast editing things like that you 442 00:19:10,490 --> 00:19:07,799 get some pretty good images from the 443 00:19:11,690 --> 00:19:10,500 fence video uh towards the bottom you 444 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:11,700 can see the fingers and one of these 445 00:19:15,710 --> 00:19:13,200 things outline of a head you can see 446 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:15,720 outline of waking eye you can also see 447 00:19:19,610 --> 00:19:17,940 uh See It seemingly stand up which is 448 00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:19,620 interesting behind the fence which is 449 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,120 really hard to see but if you look at it 450 00:19:24,289 --> 00:19:22,799 well you can see it you can see the 451 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:24,299 figure standing up behind the fence in 452 00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:26,760 that first video the second video uh 453 00:19:32,570 --> 00:19:29,100 that is really important to me is and 454 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:32,580 still really confusing is the uh the 455 00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:34,799 tractor video of the family took I 456 00:19:39,409 --> 00:19:36,720 believe it was taken by Angela's father 457 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:39,419 I believe uh and it's the video of the 458 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:42,059 shadowy being and it's running next to 459 00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:44,460 it apparently trying to operate the the 460 00:19:48,830 --> 00:19:46,380 tractor and that's what it was like me I 461 00:19:51,169 --> 00:19:48,840 saw the eyes blinking I thought shadow 462 00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:51,179 of something sitting in this thing so to 463 00:19:56,810 --> 00:19:53,940 Me overall it seems 464 00:19:58,970 --> 00:19:56,820 um I know Vegas has got a history with 465 00:20:01,490 --> 00:19:58,980 these things you have what the UFO there 466 00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:01,500 that was closed about a month or two ago 467 00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:04,860 now uh yeah I believe and you covered 468 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:06,660 that one that was also interesting and 469 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,980 then it goes all the way back man you 470 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:09,720 have Area 51 you know that's for 471 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:11,160 Dreamland 472 00:20:15,710 --> 00:20:13,799 um almost our story as far as Bob Lazar 473 00:20:18,169 --> 00:20:15,720 goes he's been dragged by a few people 474 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:18,179 too I know oh his as far as his 475 00:20:22,270 --> 00:20:20,580 credentials go a lot has been changed 476 00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,280 over his history but I do believe him 477 00:20:26,210 --> 00:20:24,720 almost 100 478 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:26,220 um I believe that guy's telling the 479 00:20:33,169 --> 00:20:30,660 truth too uh and there is definitely 480 00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:33,179 um a congregation in the west here of a 481 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:34,559 lot of this stuff going on I mean you 482 00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:37,500 have Dulce you have dugway you have uh 483 00:20:43,549 --> 00:20:40,500 you know Vegas out there with uh Groom 484 00:20:45,289 --> 00:20:43,559 Lake so I I do believe it's all real and 485 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:45,299 and the only thing I'm really worried 486 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:47,760 about right now is Discerning what 487 00:20:52,669 --> 00:20:51,000 information is going to be truthful uh 488 00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:52,679 and guiding me on the right path to 489 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,780 finding this truth and what is going to 490 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:56,640 be manipulation because it does seem 491 00:21:01,549 --> 00:20:58,080 like there's a pattern of manipulation 492 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:01,559 here if you're looking to ufology it's 493 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:03,440 been a thing in this community 494 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,360 of this existence that you know it's 495 00:21:11,570 --> 00:21:08,640 certainly we're Von Braun talking about 496 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:11,580 you know fake Alien Invasion and that uh 497 00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:12,900 you know the government has covered up 498 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,059 and tried to manipulate these topics and 499 00:21:19,549 --> 00:21:17,760 uh obscure them from from The public's 500 00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:19,559 eye and as well as stigmatize them you 501 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,200 know over the last five plus decades so 502 00:21:26,510 --> 00:21:24,480 there's a strong uh evidence of 503 00:21:29,090 --> 00:21:26,520 manipulation in a lot of ways throughout 504 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:29,100 the years there's uh patterns of 505 00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:30,840 manipulation in these situations right 506 00:21:36,770 --> 00:21:34,380 now uh and one of the things I 507 00:21:38,270 --> 00:21:36,780 hope hopefully other people are you know 508 00:21:40,130 --> 00:21:38,280 using a critical thinking skills here 509 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,140 and looking at it and 510 00:21:44,210 --> 00:21:42,240 trying to analyze the situation from 511 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,220 every perspective because like you said 512 00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:46,080 about news Nation I love news Nation 513 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:48,059 I've watched a lot of the coverage from 514 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,980 various other topics that they've been 515 00:21:54,649 --> 00:21:52,400 like what I scoured the YouTube channel 516 00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:54,659 they do report on a lot of good things 517 00:21:59,630 --> 00:21:56,820 but at the same time in this day and age 518 00:22:01,850 --> 00:21:59,640 and especially with this topic it's hard 519 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:01,860 to not get cynical about a lot of things 520 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,720 it gets hard to stay optimistic 521 00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:06,000 sometimes uh it's kind of like Elon Musk 522 00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:08,280 like I like Elon Musk and he says a lot 523 00:22:12,169 --> 00:22:10,140 of good things at the same time I don't 524 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:12,179 necessarily know if 100 trust him and 525 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,100 that's how I am with news nation and 526 00:22:18,289 --> 00:22:16,320 considering your credentials and you 527 00:22:20,930 --> 00:22:18,299 know what we've seen from them so far I 528 00:22:22,669 --> 00:22:20,940 feel like we can trust these guys 529 00:22:25,549 --> 00:22:22,679 um I feel like I can trust George Knapp 530 00:22:26,930 --> 00:22:25,559 the only thing that worries me is uh we 531 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:26,940 obviously have different governmental 532 00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:29,900 you know essay to use special access 533 00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:32,940 factions essentially that are fighting 534 00:22:36,409 --> 00:22:35,100 with probably other factions you know 535 00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:36,419 like Greer and some of these people he's 536 00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:39,240 come out with and said over over truth 537 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:40,740 and the stuff getting out so I'm 538 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,380 wondering how many of the seeds and 539 00:22:47,210 --> 00:22:44,640 media and how much of this information 540 00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:47,220 is something that we can use as a 541 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:48,419 certain cheers and how much it is 542 00:22:52,669 --> 00:22:51,240 manipulation so I think anyone that sees 543 00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:52,679 any information now don't believe 544 00:22:58,130 --> 00:22:56,400 everything as is up front if you want to 545 00:23:00,830 --> 00:22:58,140 know the truth investigating it yourself 546 00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:00,840 because it's a huge issue right now 547 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,580 nowadays with a lot of us and I'm guilty 548 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,080 of this in a lot of ways too where we 549 00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,240 become news feed addicts essentially the 550 00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,919 only thing we believe is whether it's in 551 00:23:12,649 --> 00:23:10,080 the headlines that we see from a quick 552 00:23:15,049 --> 00:23:12,659 video or you know a 20 second 553 00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:15,059 uh Tick Tock and things like that so if 554 00:23:18,049 --> 00:23:16,860 you see something like this and it 555 00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:18,059 treats your interest 556 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,860 go check it out because we need more 557 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:21,840 people out here discovering this kind of 558 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,580 stuff and 559 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,440 using the critical thinking skills and 560 00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:27,840 I'm hoping the situation even though I 561 00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,340 don't think it's a coincidence is going 562 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:31,679 to wake a lot of people up because in my 563 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:33,840 personal life I'm I'm not gonna lie I 564 00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:36,120 know 20 to 30 people right now that I 565 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,200 work with 566 00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:39,120 and that I know as friends that are 567 00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,799 really starting to ask questions about 568 00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:43,200 these these key topics that have come up 569 00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:45,059 in the last month and a half it's really 570 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:46,440 made a change in a lot of people's 571 00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:47,700 brains 572 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,320 um it feels like something is going to 573 00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:51,600 change here pretty soon not just not 574 00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:53,400 just with you and subject or with the 575 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,740 Extraterrestrial subject but just in 576 00:24:00,049 --> 00:23:57,840 general an informational aspect I think 577 00:24:01,850 --> 00:24:00,059 there's it's really the next interesting 578 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,860 couple of years coming up I think by the 579 00:24:06,169 --> 00:24:04,320 end of 2024 this Society of the new 580 00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:06,179 event is going to look a lot different 581 00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:09,659 than it did right now today so we'll see 582 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:13,140 yeah and this brings up so many things 583 00:24:18,649 --> 00:24:16,260 you know we have non-human intelligence 584 00:24:20,930 --> 00:24:18,659 possible close encounter 585 00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:20,940 we have a former high-ranking U.S 586 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:22,620 intelligence official that's claimed the 587 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:25,260 US government is retrieved 588 00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:28,559 some of these uaps of non-human origin 589 00:24:33,169 --> 00:24:31,559 and reverse engineer them and I think 590 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:33,179 there's a big question among people 591 00:24:37,850 --> 00:24:35,400 about how we should interpret this 592 00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:37,860 extraordinary you know Coincidence of 593 00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:39,480 developments especially in such close 594 00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,240 proximity why did it take so long for 595 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:44,880 this story about angel and his family to 596 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:48,840 come out to the public and is it you 597 00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:50,820 know in some way shape or form possibly 598 00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:52,380 a distraction from the whistleblowers 599 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,940 this is something that people have asked 600 00:24:58,970 --> 00:24:56,159 me I don't have an answer to that 601 00:25:00,890 --> 00:24:58,980 however nobody knows you're right and 602 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:00,900 and everybody wants to know you know is 603 00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:03,480 it ours or is it theirs because I don't 604 00:25:07,970 --> 00:25:04,980 believe the family even though there's 605 00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:07,980 have been some inconsistencies 606 00:25:12,529 --> 00:25:09,539 um specifically with the ring doorbell 607 00:25:14,450 --> 00:25:12,539 cam which Angel claimed was his neighbor 608 00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:14,460 across the street but turned out to be 609 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:17,340 uh entirely further away think little 610 00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,720 things there have been some 611 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:20,400 inconsistencies with the stories and 612 00:25:26,029 --> 00:25:21,960 you've you've pointed out a few of those 613 00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:26,039 off off air to me as well but at the 614 00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:27,720 same time 615 00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:30,659 you know these corporations without 616 00:25:38,029 --> 00:25:33,320 naming them these government contractors 617 00:25:41,330 --> 00:25:38,039 have purportedly the ability to make an 618 00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:41,340 event like this take place and 619 00:25:46,010 --> 00:25:43,559 very well you know Steer the direction 620 00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:46,020 of the news they could land in anyone's 621 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:47,880 backyard right and they could kind of 622 00:25:52,909 --> 00:25:50,340 this they could make this happen anytime 623 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:52,919 they want if this purported technology 624 00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,440 is actually in their you know at their 625 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,320 disposal in in their possession what are 626 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:00,480 your thoughts is this are we maybe on 627 00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:02,940 the cusp of confirmation by a 628 00:26:07,810 --> 00:26:05,340 government's you know that non-human 629 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:07,820 intelligence is present on the planet 630 00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:12,720 I I think we are if rush and his 631 00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:16,500 complaints that he filed are number one 632 00:26:21,409 --> 00:26:19,140 going to be addressed properly uh by 633 00:26:23,570 --> 00:26:21,419 Congress and number two not shut down by 634 00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:23,580 these internal factions that you know we 635 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,500 can't see and I think that's the main 636 00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,080 issue here so I think this this could go 637 00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:30,960 one of two ways this is a linchpin uh 638 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:33,960 historical moment there can be in the 639 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:35,640 sense that if these complaints go 640 00:26:38,810 --> 00:26:36,960 through Congress opens up these 641 00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:38,820 investigations and we're able to get a 642 00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:41,460 foot in the door uh with all the people 643 00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:42,900 that are pushing us right now I hope it 644 00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:44,940 happens but if we can get a foot in the 645 00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:46,980 door as far as being able to actually 646 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,860 open these programs up from this I think 647 00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:52,320 we're okay but the only issue I'm having 648 00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:54,539 and I'm worried about a little bit is 649 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,580 that rush and it is going to get shut 650 00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:58,559 down internally I don't think they can 651 00:27:01,310 --> 00:27:00,179 assassinate his character at this point 652 00:27:03,529 --> 00:27:01,320 it doesn't seem like there's been 653 00:27:05,210 --> 00:27:03,539 anything in his path it's going to be be 654 00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,220 able to be misconstrued to the point 655 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:06,559 where he wouldn't be credible anymore 656 00:27:12,529 --> 00:27:10,320 but at the same time it does seem like 657 00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:12,539 these internal secret factions inside 658 00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,059 the government are extremely powerful I 659 00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:17,039 mean if if we got to address the 660 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:19,500 question so if these if these groups 661 00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:22,559 have technology that is hundreds 662 00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:24,059 thousands tens of thousands of years 663 00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:25,740 ahead of ours that essentially looks 664 00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:28,260 like magic uh we're not just talking 665 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,360 about you know anti-gravitational 666 00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:32,640 aircraft we're talking about like faster 667 00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:34,980 than light communication apparently from 668 00:27:39,230 --> 00:27:37,500 that press conference that Greer had uh 669 00:27:42,289 --> 00:27:39,240 we're talking about a lot of different 670 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:42,299 Technologies besides just you know the 671 00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:43,860 being able to lift things with 672 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,919 anti-gravity packs so essentially there 673 00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:49,440 is a lot of power in that and there's a 674 00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,179 lot of things that can be done to 675 00:27:55,730 --> 00:27:54,240 control the situation uh on a world 676 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:55,740 scale with these kind of Technologies 677 00:28:01,549 --> 00:27:58,559 and in the dark without us knowing 678 00:28:03,169 --> 00:28:01,559 um in this whole situation I mean this 679 00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:03,179 doesn't I mean I do believe I'm going to 680 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:04,620 say personally one of the things I do 681 00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:07,679 believe is that what Greer and his 682 00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:10,140 associates are saying about these this 683 00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:12,419 internal struggle going on I 100 believe 684 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,940 that and it just it just worries me 685 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:16,080 because I know there's a lot of good 686 00:28:19,789 --> 00:28:17,520 guys out there I know there's a lot of 687 00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:19,799 people that want truth but what we 688 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:22,200 aren't dealing with right now uh if this 689 00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:24,179 is real which I think it is 690 00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:25,020 um 691 00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:28,559 is a very very very powerful enemy this 692 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:32,120 is an enemy that not only is 693 00:28:36,409 --> 00:28:34,260 multi-generational at this point because 694 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:36,419 it's been going on for longer than 70 695 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:39,840 years from what I have researched but 696 00:28:45,049 --> 00:28:42,600 it's also been able to keep these things 697 00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:45,059 in secret for so long and access and use 698 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:46,500 these Technologies for that same amount 699 00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:50,640 of time which I mean the the amount of 700 00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,159 possibilities and questions that opens 701 00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:55,679 up is it's insane it's never ending and 702 00:28:59,630 --> 00:28:57,720 you can think of you know the end of 703 00:29:02,390 --> 00:28:59,640 World War II new schwaben land you have 704 00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:02,400 project high jump with uh the stories of 705 00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:04,020 Admiral Byrd a lot of that can't really 706 00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:05,640 be corroborated you know a lot of these 707 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:08,460 stories end out just being hearsay but a 708 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,900 lot of questions have to be opened up 709 00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:12,480 that if if the Roswell thing is real and 710 00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:15,240 if we really if we really got our first 711 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:17,820 UFO in 1933 in Italy and we've had them 712 00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:20,100 for that long operable 713 00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:22,440 I mean I know this sounds crazy to say 714 00:29:25,789 --> 00:29:23,580 outright but I've been talking about 715 00:29:27,769 --> 00:29:25,799 this with some of my friends like Hitler 716 00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:27,779 may have not even died on this planet 717 00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:30,659 you know like it sounds insane but with 718 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,940 all the questions this opens up like it 719 00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:34,320 means World War II could have played out 720 00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:36,360 me exactly it did because of UFO 721 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,220 technology and that probably goes with a 722 00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:40,559 lot of art history since that period so 723 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,960 these these groups are probably so 724 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,880 entrenched that we it's going to take 725 00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:47,039 literally everyone and probably the 726 00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,559 entirety of the public to be able to to 727 00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:51,840 get this to open up and that's 728 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:53,880 kind of in the long terms that's my 729 00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:56,520 point as I'm I'm worried right now that 730 00:30:01,130 --> 00:29:57,419 Dave 731 00:30:03,409 --> 00:30:01,140 and the people behind him and ufology 732 00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:03,419 community and people like you and me 733 00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:05,100 aren't going to be enough right now 734 00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:07,020 that's my like deepest fear about all 735 00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:09,000 this is it's not going to be enough of a 736 00:30:12,889 --> 00:30:10,980 push to be able to get this as far as it 737 00:30:14,570 --> 00:30:12,899 needs to go because if it doesn't if 738 00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:14,580 this complaint doesn't go as far as it 739 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,440 needs to go and that crack isn't deep 740 00:30:19,549 --> 00:30:18,000 enough it's just going to steal itself 741 00:30:20,690 --> 00:30:19,559 back up and we're going to be locked out 742 00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:20,700 again and then we're going to have to 743 00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:21,720 wait another 744 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:23,940 six months a year two years ten years 745 00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:25,760 down the road until someone else is 746 00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:28,140 brave enough and enough of the Patriot 747 00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:29,940 to come out and wreck their entire wife 748 00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:32,580 and career over the most important 749 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:35,340 subject in human history so I appreciate 750 00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:38,580 Dave brush and I appreciate if anyone 751 00:30:42,529 --> 00:30:40,919 anyone listens this I appreciate these 752 00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:42,539 people you should too these people that 753 00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:44,520 are coming out and talking about this 754 00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,260 information not people like me but 755 00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:48,240 people like Dave and Stephen Greer and 756 00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:50,700 all these big guys they are risking 757 00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:52,440 their lives they're risking the lives of 758 00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:53,940 their families they're looking in their 759 00:30:56,810 --> 00:30:55,260 professions they're risking their 760 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:56,820 fortunes they're risking literally 761 00:31:03,289 --> 00:31:00,480 everything for this and it really hurts 762 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:03,299 me to see a large majority of the public 763 00:31:07,549 --> 00:31:06,120 it's laughing at these guys because I 764 00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,559 hate to say it but if they put yourself 765 00:31:10,909 --> 00:31:09,120 in their shoes why the hell would you 766 00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:10,919 risk your entire life for something so 767 00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:13,559 crazy similarly it makes absolutely no 768 00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:16,140 sense man so we we need to really give 769 00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:18,179 these people a chance and I I think a 770 00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:20,220 lot of people are right now I just I 771 00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:21,480 just hope we can keep going with it 772 00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,159 maybe this is 773 00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:26,159 this could go really well or it could go 774 00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:28,500 really bad and I hope it turns into the 775 00:31:31,610 --> 00:31:30,299 first uh first option that we have an 776 00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:31,620 information at the last year and 777 00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:32,820 hopefully we can 778 00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:35,640 break into this ice wall they have built 779 00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:39,000 around disclosure yeah man I don't think 780 00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:41,880 it's even after this happens Dave and 781 00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:44,940 this whole person is successful I still 782 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:46,200 I think it's still going to be a slow 783 00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,279 move after that because there's 784 00:31:51,529 --> 00:31:49,679 obviously going to be fighting at every 785 00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:51,539 Point uh you know there's going to be 786 00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:53,700 stonewalling essentially a large portion 787 00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:55,799 of the corporate Legacy Media is against 788 00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:58,380 this topic they're paid off you get a 789 00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,760 lot of politicians that you're probably 790 00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:01,679 against this topic there's a lot of 791 00:32:05,510 --> 00:32:03,480 people inside Washington that we don't 792 00:32:07,850 --> 00:32:05,520 know we haven't talked to 793 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,860 um you know but if you're waiting for 794 00:32:12,169 --> 00:32:10,559 the chance to put those down stomp on 795 00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:12,179 his neck and kill it as soon as they can 796 00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:15,240 so we got a lot of good people out there 797 00:32:18,889 --> 00:32:16,740 though and I trust the people that are 798 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,899 in the news right now because I'm being 799 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,120 honest who else do we have the trust 800 00:32:26,529 --> 00:32:24,240 um there's not many people right now uh 801 00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:26,539 in the public eye that have proven 802 00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:30,059 proven uh that they should be respected 803 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,460 untrusted at this point yeah essentially 804 00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:34,559 you know the people in this country that 805 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:36,059 they're working towards season this is 806 00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:36,720 Secret 807 00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:38,820 and doing really discussing things would 808 00:32:41,690 --> 00:32:40,080 be Secrets 809 00:32:44,029 --> 00:32:41,700 um so I'm hoping we can get to the 810 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:44,039 bottom of this uh Stephen Greer is in 811 00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:45,840 your interviews 812 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,940 and especially the press conference and 813 00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:50,399 the testimony the I can't remember his 814 00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:52,020 name but the Marine gave on there I 815 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,980 believe his name is it Herrera yeah yeah 816 00:32:59,210 --> 00:32:57,600 talking about the operation that he 817 00:33:00,409 --> 00:32:59,220 witnessed in Indonesia with the UFO 818 00:33:03,289 --> 00:33:00,419 there that 819 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:03,299 was disgusting man thinking about these 820 00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:05,640 kind of Technologies being used to 821 00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,000 to harm other human this way human you 822 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,760 know traffic them and contribute to 823 00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:13,919 you know the drug surge that played 824 00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:15,419 their society yeah we need to get rid of 825 00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:16,880 this stuff 826 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,559 we really do and uh these people are 827 00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:21,840 heroes people who are saying it isn't a 828 00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:23,340 lot of here I'm gonna support them in 829 00:33:27,769 --> 00:33:25,620 every way I can you do too and I'm 830 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,779 hoping our general public gets there at 831 00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:29,039 some point too 832 00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:31,380 I I really appreciate you saying that 833 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:32,940 because I think that's where this is 834 00:33:38,269 --> 00:33:34,440 headed and I like where this is going 835 00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:38,279 because you know the one thing that 836 00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:42,240 David grush has going for him is that he 837 00:33:47,090 --> 00:33:44,820 apparently you know all like you said 838 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,100 all his credentials are legitimate and 839 00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:49,440 unfortunately it seems so often in this 840 00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,260 space as in the case of Doug Papa the 841 00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:53,760 first thing that they go after is 842 00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,620 somebody's background and credentials 843 00:34:01,070 --> 00:33:57,720 when in reality that has nothing to do 844 00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:01,080 with the matter at hand and you know 845 00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:03,899 what what grush describes about these 846 00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:07,760 supposed crash retrieval programs is 847 00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:10,500 very interesting in how it operates he's 848 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,899 got all the jargon he has all of the 849 00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:14,879 oversight everybody that seems to have 850 00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:18,179 worked with him likes the guy and that's 851 00:34:23,149 --> 00:34:20,220 where things become difficult because as 852 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:23,159 you mentioned all the Legacy Media is 853 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,679 basically ripping in ripping a new one 854 00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:27,599 on the poor guy even though they have no 855 00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:30,119 reason to and that show shows really 856 00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:33,240 badly to the American public and it 857 00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:34,980 makes you wonder in my opinion it makes 858 00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:37,320 his claims more legitimate 859 00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:39,480 yeah I think it does and I think it's 860 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:41,460 offensive to some people the way I mean 861 00:34:46,369 --> 00:34:43,260 especially with the Legacy Media 862 00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:46,379 especially the way they treat uh just 863 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,419 regular Americans and people who think 864 00:34:51,770 --> 00:34:50,460 we're stupid and granted you know a lot 865 00:34:53,869 --> 00:34:51,780 of us aren't paying attention right now 866 00:34:55,310 --> 00:34:53,879 but most of us most humans are really 867 00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:55,320 smart you know what I mean and I think 868 00:35:00,410 --> 00:34:58,440 most people can see the untruth in a lot 869 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:00,420 of what's going on right now and the 870 00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:02,220 untruths and a lot of what's been going 871 00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:04,859 on especially in the last decade but I 872 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:08,099 think most most of us I mean I I've felt 873 00:35:12,109 --> 00:35:09,900 this myself so I'm sure that most people 874 00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,119 feel it most of us are 875 00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:14,640 so worried about you know keeping it 876 00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:16,200 together on a daily basis worried about 877 00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:17,700 our daily lives all the things we got 878 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,020 going on in this 879 00:35:23,089 --> 00:35:21,359 seemingly faster and faster Society we 880 00:35:26,089 --> 00:35:23,099 live in that you know our attention 881 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,099 spans uh have been programmed and 882 00:35:32,329 --> 00:35:29,280 conditioned to do good for a few minutes 883 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,339 at most uh on top of that so I don't I 884 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,599 don't blame a lot of people for not 885 00:35:37,450 --> 00:35:35,760 talking about this and not being able to 886 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:37,460 digest it because 887 00:35:42,290 --> 00:35:40,320 uh you know it is a lot but I think 888 00:35:44,770 --> 00:35:42,300 subconsciously a lot of us are seeing 889 00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:44,780 the unsuitable of what's going on and we 890 00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,400 recognize it but since there's not a lot 891 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,960 we can do about it we kind of just tend 892 00:35:51,890 --> 00:35:50,160 to shove it into the back of our brain 893 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:51,900 and forget about it later so I think 894 00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:53,640 what's happening right now with these 895 00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,260 situations is making a huge difference 896 00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,540 in that for a lot of people because you 897 00:36:00,650 --> 00:35:59,040 know we don't want to act on a subject 898 00:36:05,870 --> 00:36:00,660 until 899 00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:05,880 know human brains are kind of rigged to 900 00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:09,180 do that and so right now with these 901 00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:11,940 situations I'm hoping that it's kind of 902 00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:14,040 one of those situations where it is on 903 00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:15,720 our doorstep now and it's in your face 904 00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:18,119 and you can't really turn around and put 905 00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,859 your head in the sand we try to address 906 00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:22,079 this and these are hard questions it's 907 00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:24,839 not just light-hearted there's aliens in 908 00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:27,240 the sky it's these things would be ahead 909 00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:29,220 from us for seven years and our history 910 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,040 is probably completely different than 911 00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:35,040 what we've been found and I'm hoping 912 00:36:37,849 --> 00:36:36,540 once people realize they have to 913 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:37,859 question their entire history are we 914 00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:38,940 going to start seeing some people go to 915 00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:40,020 prison 916 00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:42,300 because we've been lied to you and I'm 917 00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,940 starting to wonder not Wonder but I've 918 00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:46,079 believed this for a long time that 919 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:47,460 what's partner has three books 920 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:48,900 especially our history of the last 100 921 00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:52,320 years is really nothing uh didn't really 922 00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:54,420 ever play out like we've been told I 923 00:36:59,569 --> 00:36:57,720 think a large majority of that as of the 924 00:37:00,589 --> 00:36:59,579 last century has to do with the UFO 925 00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:00,599 topic 926 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:03,240 um I'm no I know it's true you know I'll 927 00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:05,280 say that again you know a lot of people 928 00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:09,060 uh stole the rest of this crazy talk but 929 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:10,500 it wasn't an experience there's gonna be 930 00:37:14,089 --> 00:37:12,780 a lot more people legitimately seriously 931 00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:14,099 talking about this and I think it's 932 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,780 going to help us all grow as a 933 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:17,040 civilization 934 00:37:23,150 --> 00:37:20,520 uh Neil and like in 935 00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:23,160 one of you guys like if you study 936 00:37:27,470 --> 00:37:25,619 Hindu Hinduism you got the yugos right 937 00:37:29,690 --> 00:37:27,480 and we're supposed to be at the start 938 00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:29,700 I'm essentially a new golden age and I 939 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,660 think 940 00:37:35,329 --> 00:37:32,640 when they when you see stuff like that 941 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:35,339 and three thousand year old plus Tech it 942 00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:37,260 leads me to believe that maybe like we 943 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:38,820 are at the start of this golden age and 944 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:40,680 this is what the cat list for that in 945 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,140 the sun suit or the start of the cabinet 946 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,119 because I mean what we're talking about 947 00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:47,520 right now on this subject and hopefully 948 00:37:52,490 --> 00:37:49,859 this truth is coming out essentially it 949 00:37:55,609 --> 00:37:52,500 gives our whole society a makeover uh 950 00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:55,619 you know from like zero to 100 and one 951 00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:58,800 day so I'm positive I'm really positive 952 00:38:02,089 --> 00:38:00,839 I just want to be careful myself right 953 00:38:03,470 --> 00:38:02,099 now and I want everyone else to be 954 00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:03,480 careful and just just don't believe 955 00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:04,680 everything you hear if you want to go 956 00:38:09,170 --> 00:38:06,380 through it's under yourself 957 00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:09,180 and that that's I think that's important 958 00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:12,599 and you know it it's really it's it's 959 00:38:16,849 --> 00:38:15,000 sad that the Legacy Media seems to be 960 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,859 controlled at the highest levels but it 961 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:18,480 makes sense you know our economy is 962 00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:21,060 based on this and the way I was just 963 00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:23,220 discussing it with 964 00:38:29,210 --> 00:38:26,280 um a uh former senior senior 965 00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:29,220 intelligence officer who uh confided in 966 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:32,160 me some some things you know if 967 00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:34,440 if you the last people you're going to 968 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,000 shoot are the contractors who keep you 969 00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:38,160 alive right so a lot of these 970 00:38:43,790 --> 00:38:41,820 corporations that are being named and as 971 00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:43,800 the bad guys in this whistleblower 972 00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:46,680 testimony I find it highly unlikely that 973 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:50,099 they are going to be you know uh taken 974 00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:52,740 out at the knees because these are the 975 00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:55,560 same forces that keep our government uh 976 00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:56,579 you know they're the tip of the spirit 977 00:39:01,310 --> 00:38:58,020 they're the ones that make us a world 978 00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:01,320 power and you know this isn't the first 979 00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:03,300 time that government officials have 980 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:07,560 suggested that we possess for lack of a 981 00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:10,380 better word retrieved materials 982 00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:13,980 um late Senator Harry Reid who was close 983 00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:15,260 friends with 984 00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:18,180 yeah rip right 985 00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:21,660 um Harry Reid who was extremely left 986 00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:25,320 wing and Robert Bigelow who was more 987 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:27,839 conservative when it came to certain 988 00:39:32,210 --> 00:39:30,240 things for decades these guys saw eye to 989 00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:32,220 eye and I think that's really important 990 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:34,020 because 991 00:39:41,329 --> 00:39:38,160 they both believed that they fought for 992 00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:41,339 greater disclosure and I you know Harry 993 00:39:45,890 --> 00:39:42,720 Reid 994 00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:45,900 came forward and he had been told that 995 00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:48,200 Lockheed and some of these other 996 00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:51,380 contractors had reverse engineered 997 00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:54,540 materials now I think this is starting 998 00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:57,660 to be more commonly believed by the 999 00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:00,900 mainstream and what are your thoughts on 1000 00:40:09,650 --> 00:40:04,260 the public announcement that the U.S has 1001 00:40:13,069 --> 00:40:11,510 um I mean I I would say at this point if 1002 00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:13,079 you put all the other evidence over the 1003 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:14,760 last you know a few decades together 1004 00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:18,560 between you know military whistleblowers 1005 00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:22,200 civilians just all accounts uh it seems 1006 00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:23,940 like it's true it seems like it's real 1007 00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:26,700 I'd imagine I've seen two of them myself 1008 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:28,260 or what I think are two of the ones that 1009 00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:29,520 we have myself they definitely weren't 1010 00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,200 driven by aliens 1011 00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:33,599 so I know we at least got two so if 1012 00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:35,460 someone's saying we have nine I mean who 1013 00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:37,800 knows you know what I mean I've been 1014 00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:39,000 gretz is saying when you shot down 1015 00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:40,980 something like 122 of these things on 1016 00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:44,099 record uh I can't remember if that was 1017 00:40:47,329 --> 00:40:45,359 Greer there's been so much information 1018 00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:47,339 lately man going on it's hard to keep it 1019 00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:49,740 all inside my head but uh I mean if we 1020 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:52,140 really sat down 123 of these things you 1021 00:40:56,510 --> 00:40:54,660 know with scale our weapons I'd imagine 1022 00:41:00,530 --> 00:40:56,520 we got a lot more than that which might 1023 00:41:01,790 --> 00:41:00,540 uh cover some of the instances the 1024 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:01,800 vehicles all over the world I mean 1025 00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:03,240 people are hundreds of people are 1026 00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:04,740 filming these things on a daily basis 1027 00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:07,740 you know so I'd imagine we probably have 1028 00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:10,020 a lot more than 1029 00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,820 you know even that's on record I'd 1030 00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:13,920 imagine through the 122 on record or 1031 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:15,420 from what Greer's saying there's 1032 00:41:18,349 --> 00:41:16,380 probably 1033 00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:18,359 triple quadruple that that we just 1034 00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:19,619 haven't heard of 1035 00:41:23,089 --> 00:41:21,060 um I've been worried about the 1036 00:41:25,069 --> 00:41:23,099 destabilization factor though like you 1037 00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:25,079 said you know uh we can't just take a 1038 00:41:30,109 --> 00:41:27,300 lot of these people out of the knees 1039 00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,119 um our country right now is you know as 1040 00:41:34,609 --> 00:41:31,920 we know our economies formed largely 1041 00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,619 around uh War cultures and weapon making 1042 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,480 and things like that so you have these 1043 00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:38,640 companies and I'll name them uh because 1044 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:40,500 I don't like these companies lawsuit 1045 00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:43,560 Martin or trip Drummond Raytheon let's 1046 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,020 say I see all these companies man they 1047 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,240 whether or not it's in it's not the 1048 00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:49,920 entirety of their you know employment 1049 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:52,140 hiding these things but it is the people 1050 00:41:55,490 --> 00:41:53,760 at the top and some of these projects 1051 00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:55,500 these people need to be found out and 1052 00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:58,320 they need to be put on trial and I you 1053 00:42:02,450 --> 00:41:59,400 know I don't want to start getting 1054 00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:02,460 flagrant with my speech but I I'm to the 1055 00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:05,099 point where I'm really angry about this 1056 00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:06,900 too and I saw this in David garage's 1057 00:42:11,210 --> 00:42:08,760 face in the interview when he gave the 1058 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,220 interview about him saying that there 1059 00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:13,200 were a lot of really Un-American things 1060 00:42:18,730 --> 00:42:15,720 that were being done this in secret and 1061 00:42:20,930 --> 00:42:18,740 that's what makes angry is that there's 1062 00:42:23,870 --> 00:42:20,940 sociopaths in some of these companies 1063 00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:23,880 and in places in government that are 1064 00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:25,800 essentially pulling wool over our eyes 1065 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:27,660 in the name of 1066 00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:31,140 greed and health and understandably you 1067 00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:33,540 know we can't just take them all out but 1068 00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:35,820 once we figure out who these people are 1069 00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:38,460 we got to move away from this culture as 1070 00:42:42,890 --> 00:42:40,980 soon as we can because the civilization 1071 00:42:44,569 --> 00:42:42,900 is a huge thing here for people when 1072 00:42:46,370 --> 00:42:44,579 they think about aliens coming out they 1073 00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:46,380 automatically think you know what would 1074 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,060 the religious view is going to be a lot 1075 00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:50,880 of suicides and that that will somewhat 1076 00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,980 play into it I think most people will be 1077 00:42:58,730 --> 00:42:55,440 able to fit this topic once it comes out 1078 00:43:00,530 --> 00:42:58,740 into their psyches in a way that makes 1079 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,540 sense as long as we're getting the truth 1080 00:43:04,609 --> 00:43:03,119 given the truthful information uh you 1081 00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:04,619 know if it turns out this doesn't play 1082 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:08,280 out well and the public is hit with this 1083 00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:11,760 blue beam as fake Alien Invasion which 1084 00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:13,619 they definitely have the technology for 1085 00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:15,900 uh to pretty easily do 1086 00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:18,060 you know if we get hit with this kind of 1087 00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:19,560 stuff and it comes out in the wrong way 1088 00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:22,920 uh it can be really really bad but I 1089 00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:24,540 think if it comes out in a good good way 1090 00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:27,060 in a truthful it turns out that you know 1091 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,400 we do exist easily with these things but 1092 00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:32,240 we can go in a good direction but do 1093 00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:34,020 stabilizations is going to happen no 1094 00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:35,460 matter what I mean we're talking about 1095 00:43:40,849 --> 00:43:37,560 our entire economy being fractured in 1096 00:43:42,770 --> 00:43:40,859 half and an essentially a day 1097 00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:42,780 um and a lot of these people you know 1098 00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:44,940 they're in these positions of power our 1099 00:43:49,849 --> 00:43:46,920 economy is built around them our culture 1100 00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,859 is built around them in a lot of ways so 1101 00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:52,079 these are essentially pillars of our 1102 00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:54,660 economy and our government and 1103 00:43:58,730 --> 00:43:57,000 uh it's something that we need to I 1104 00:44:00,650 --> 00:43:58,740 guess keep on our heads as we navigate 1105 00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:00,660 with the situation and I think the 1106 00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,460 people in Washington and the people that 1107 00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:04,160 are addressing the subject right now 1108 00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:07,560 have solid heads on I'm hoping we don't 1109 00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:08,940 get to the point where enough of this 1110 00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:10,680 information comes out and we start 1111 00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:12,440 seeing riots in the streets but 1112 00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:15,420 considering how drastic this is and how 1113 00:44:19,569 --> 00:44:17,160 much it changes their history how much 1114 00:44:23,809 --> 00:44:19,579 it changes our daily lives 1115 00:44:25,849 --> 00:44:23,819 uh I can see a large amount of people 1116 00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:25,859 being extremely angry about this because 1117 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,720 I'm extremely angry I know there's 1118 00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:30,240 things in my life on a daily basis that 1119 00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:33,180 I that I suffer that probably wouldn't 1120 00:44:37,130 --> 00:44:35,700 have to be done you know if we had 1121 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:37,140 access to these Technologies they're 1122 00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:38,460 talking about so that's just me 1123 00:44:41,450 --> 00:44:39,900 personally and I know there's probably 1124 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,460 millions of lives that could have been 1125 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:44,160 saved or enhanced you know by these 1126 00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:45,839 things being public 1127 00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:47,400 um which was kind of what I'm irritated 1128 00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:49,020 about the people that are having the new 1129 00:44:54,349 --> 00:44:52,380 secrets are okay with that huge name of 1130 00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:54,359 whatever they're fighting for so 1131 00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:58,260 big time Big Time and you know it's very 1132 00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:00,780 very interesting how coincidence and 1133 00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:03,599 synchronicity has been working at least 1134 00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:06,060 in my personal experience regarding this 1135 00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,960 case and I I've been very blessed uh due 1136 00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:11,760 to previous things that I've done like 1137 00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:14,460 running a bed and breakfast in the uina 1138 00:45:19,309 --> 00:45:17,160 Basin of Utah where uh Special 1139 00:45:22,490 --> 00:45:19,319 Operations and intelligence subject 1140 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:22,500 matter experts would stay you know and 1141 00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:24,900 somehow I've kept kind of kept those uh 1142 00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:28,260 relationships alive over the years you 1143 00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,839 know because I have no no there's no way 1144 00:45:36,109 --> 00:45:32,640 to explain some of the connections I've 1145 00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:36,119 gotten and it makes me realize that you 1146 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,220 know the individuals presented with 1147 00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:41,280 credible or verifiable evidence 1148 00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:43,980 um oftentimes attack those who come 1149 00:45:48,109 --> 00:45:45,720 forward with it like we discussed I 1150 00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:48,119 think Doug pop is doing a great job he's 1151 00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:49,980 been attacked they tried to knock the 1152 00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:53,460 knees out from under him I think that 1153 00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,079 um 1154 00:45:58,970 --> 00:45:56,640 groosh Grouch is doing a great job 1155 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,980 they've done the same thing even sean 1156 00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:01,440 Kirkpatrick who uh Kirkpatrick is with 1157 00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:05,220 arrow a-a-r-o and you know in in 1158 00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,040 Kirkpatrick's testimony to Congress you 1159 00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:10,079 know he said that he is operating under 1160 00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:12,300 a title 10 Authority but most 1161 00:46:18,170 --> 00:46:14,760 intelligence agencies operate under a 1162 00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:18,180 higher title 50 Authority so it seems 1163 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,619 that the intelligence Community with 1164 00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,319 title 50 feels free to Stonewall arrow 1165 00:46:26,930 --> 00:46:24,000 with the title 10 because they View 1166 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:26,940 Title 10 as inferior to 50 so it was 1167 00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:31,040 almost set up to fail from the go 1168 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:34,260 what are your thoughts on that yeah 1169 00:46:43,730 --> 00:46:40,790 um my first I guess my first thought was 1170 00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:43,740 off the top is that he's either hiding 1171 00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:45,480 something or he doesn't have access to 1172 00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:47,220 the information that we know most people 1173 00:46:50,809 --> 00:46:49,560 know about the research but uh the 1174 00:46:53,089 --> 00:46:50,819 reason I thought that is because well 1175 00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,099 you know it was just so damn boring 1176 00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,440 um there wasn't much to the hearings and 1177 00:47:00,050 --> 00:46:57,839 with Kirkpatrick you know I started 1178 00:47:02,569 --> 00:47:00,060 looking into it after the hearings 1179 00:47:04,490 --> 00:47:02,579 concluded and then I I didn't hear about 1180 00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:04,500 the title 15 and title 10 thing and it 1181 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:06,900 does seem like that's going on so it 1182 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,839 seems like Kirkpatrick and his crew over 1183 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,880 there at Arrow they don't have access to 1184 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:13,920 the information they needed in the first 1185 00:47:18,829 --> 00:47:16,079 place so essentially their entire effort 1186 00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:18,839 at this point from what it looks like is 1187 00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:22,380 useless they are essentially stuck in a 1188 00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:23,819 bubble inside of a bigger bubble that 1189 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,040 they can't get out of information-wise 1190 00:47:33,650 --> 00:47:29,760 so you know if if these secret documents 1191 00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:33,660 are not able to be pursed by the staff 1192 00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:35,640 there there's really no sense in having 1193 00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,420 having the program and that's a big 1194 00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:41,520 thing that the public misses because a 1195 00:47:45,530 --> 00:47:43,319 lot of people don't hear about this kind 1196 00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:45,540 of information it's not not really 1197 00:47:49,490 --> 00:47:47,099 forced out there the way some of these 1198 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,500 headlines are so that piece of 1199 00:47:54,109 --> 00:47:52,079 information specifically changes the 1200 00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:54,119 game for ARS specifically because it 1201 00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:55,859 shows you 1202 00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,480 um essentially that you know the program 1203 00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:00,240 either was set up in the first place to 1204 00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:03,200 be a distraction which is what I think 1205 00:48:08,410 --> 00:48:06,780 or you know it's basically was just a 1206 00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:08,420 dumb so I 1207 00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:10,680 either way I don't think we're going to 1208 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:12,119 get marked out of ARL I think you're 1209 00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:12,960 probably gonna have to do another 1210 00:48:16,849 --> 00:48:15,540 iteration of the program before you know 1211 00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:16,859 a couple years down the road before 1212 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,319 anything crazy is accessible but we'll 1213 00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,119 we'll see with Congress I mean if if 1214 00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:23,280 these I guess there's like 17 18 1215 00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:25,020 senators and congressmen right now that 1216 00:48:29,930 --> 00:48:25,859 have 1217 00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:29,940 uh essentially come out and spoken about 1218 00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,960 rush in affirmative tone so hopefully 1219 00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:35,520 that's enough to get this started but 1220 00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:37,619 they need more they need more guts in 1221 00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:39,140 those programs they need higher 1222 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,940 clearances because essentially if you 1223 00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:43,680 got a glass ceiling and all the good 1224 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,540 stuff above the glass the other guys you 1225 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:47,280 know there's really no sense in doing 1226 00:48:50,089 --> 00:48:48,960 any of this it's all talk essentially 1227 00:48:53,569 --> 00:48:50,099 and that's the thing with a lot of the 1228 00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:53,579 UFO subjects is the ambiguous uh nature 1229 00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:55,800 of it lack of evidence just put you in a 1230 00:48:58,849 --> 00:48:57,420 talking Circle so that's essentially 1231 00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,859 what arrow is going to do they're gonna 1232 00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:01,440 you know look at these UFOs and be like 1233 00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:04,140 yeah there's tough one in the sky that's 1234 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,880 not ours there you go like and that's 1235 00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:07,440 not going to help anybody it's just 1236 00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:09,480 going to be a circle of useless 1237 00:49:13,010 --> 00:49:11,220 information because me personally I've 1238 00:49:15,050 --> 00:49:13,020 seen enough Tic Tac videos I've seen 1239 00:49:16,430 --> 00:49:15,060 enough or videos I've seen enough UFOs 1240 00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:16,440 everyone knows you're up there everyone 1241 00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:18,540 knows they're unexplained everyone knows 1242 00:49:22,370 --> 00:49:20,520 they're not human but we need the next 1243 00:49:24,530 --> 00:49:22,380 you know we need the next step in the 1244 00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:24,540 story and I think that's the one right 1245 00:49:28,609 --> 00:49:26,579 here is we've got these forces behind 1246 00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:28,619 the scenes right now just I think 1247 00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:30,060 there's a lot of people if she's lying 1248 00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:30,900 is I think there's a lot of people 1249 00:49:33,950 --> 00:49:32,339 losing their [\h__\h] behind the scenes 1250 00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:33,960 right now I can't imagine 1251 00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:35,940 people in one of these programs and 1252 00:49:39,170 --> 00:49:37,560 knowing that you know the Public's 1253 00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:39,180 getting ready to come after you guys and 1254 00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:41,220 start investigating but there's a lot of 1255 00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:42,900 real scary guys out there and a lot of 1256 00:49:47,569 --> 00:49:44,520 rushing around going on a lot of 1257 00:49:49,609 --> 00:49:47,579 document dumping going on so hopefully 1258 00:49:51,290 --> 00:49:49,619 enough of it gets saved that you know 1259 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,300 this track and the cycle what I'm 1260 00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,800 talking Knox and it's going to be forced 1261 00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:55,200 open and we can get a a debuts of 1262 00:49:59,089 --> 00:49:57,540 truthful information agreed man if I 1263 00:50:01,010 --> 00:49:59,099 want and that's what you want man that's 1264 00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:01,020 what we all want agreed that the the 1265 00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:03,480 paper shredders are overheating right 1266 00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:04,700 now 1267 00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:08,760 kind of want to go look at Office Max 1268 00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:10,740 and Office Depot stock right now and see 1269 00:50:14,569 --> 00:50:12,000 if they're climbing a little bit because 1270 00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:14,579 yeah it's crazy man I I think most 1271 00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:16,200 people right now 1272 00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:17,819 um in the general public and I get this 1273 00:50:23,329 --> 00:50:20,819 from talking to people all over online 1274 00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,339 you know friends people I work with 1275 00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:25,680 people in public everyone 1276 00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:27,900 um even if they don't consciously know 1277 00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:30,119 or realize that they're starving for 1278 00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:33,240 truth they're starving for people to 1279 00:50:40,210 --> 00:50:36,240 look to that are respectable and 1280 00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:40,220 admirable they're starving for me 1281 00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:43,380 they're starving for a lot of things 1282 00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,319 right now and I think subjects like this 1283 00:50:51,049 --> 00:50:48,720 hopefully will give people more because 1284 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:51,059 because I mean if I'm being honest you 1285 00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:52,079 know with the news and the way things 1286 00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,339 are going with our economy in the world 1287 00:50:58,250 --> 00:50:54,960 is your politics right now it's pretty 1288 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,260 cool it's really deep so uh and everyone 1289 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,760 thinks that I know everyone feels it 1290 00:51:03,049 --> 00:51:01,200 what doesn't matter what what you 1291 00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:03,059 believe politically if you're a human 1292 00:51:05,950 --> 00:51:05,220 you feel where things aren't going that 1293 00:51:09,710 --> 00:51:05,960 great 1294 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:09,720 I'm hoping that uh you know we can uh 1295 00:51:14,329 --> 00:51:12,660 come together as a civilization 1296 00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,339 um and kind of expose more of our 1297 00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:16,800 Humanity because in the last few decades 1298 00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:18,660 we've started to lose some of that 1299 00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:20,520 another a lot of people I've seen on a 1300 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,400 daily basis of like walk the spark of 1301 00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:26,160 life in their eyes and I think a lot of 1302 00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:27,900 us just need something physical and 1303 00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:29,819 exciting like this to get us going and 1304 00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:30,780 so 1305 00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:32,460 even if it takes the President coming 1306 00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:34,740 out you know the White House the planet 1307 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,380 himself I think that will happen in the 1308 00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:39,839 next five years later so 1309 00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:41,940 you've brought up some really good 1310 00:51:47,089 --> 00:51:43,980 points here Josh and it's it's 1311 00:51:50,809 --> 00:51:47,099 unfortunate that there seems to be a 1312 00:51:54,829 --> 00:51:50,819 deep uh long history of aerospace 1313 00:51:58,730 --> 00:51:54,839 engineers NASA the dod and even the 1314 00:52:01,549 --> 00:51:58,740 former uh UAP task force of them 1315 00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:01,559 formally being created by Congress as a 1316 00:52:06,349 --> 00:52:04,140 smoke screen and this this is 1317 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,359 unfortunate because as you mentioned 1318 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:08,400 with some of this footage like the Tic 1319 00:52:14,990 --> 00:52:12,380 Tac and uh the go fast and all of these 1320 00:52:17,870 --> 00:52:15,000 it's it's unfortunate because as you 1321 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,880 know I consider uh Jeremy Corbell and 1322 00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:20,160 George Knapp uh friends incredible 1323 00:52:25,970 --> 00:52:23,700 sources at least and you know Jeremy 1324 00:52:30,410 --> 00:52:25,980 came out uh quite some time ago it was 1325 00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,420 April of uh I'm sorry January 2023 of 1326 00:52:36,049 --> 00:52:33,599 it's a still from a video of a UFO 1327 00:52:38,089 --> 00:52:36,059 flying over the city of mosul in Iraq 1328 00:52:41,410 --> 00:52:38,099 and everybody said this is just a still 1329 00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:41,420 image he's like no you guys this is from 1330 00:52:46,849 --> 00:52:45,180 yeah yeah I got the video nobody 1331 00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:46,859 believed him 1332 00:52:53,089 --> 00:52:49,319 um and then Arrow released it in April 1333 00:52:54,890 --> 00:52:53,099 2023 complete with video and and it just 1334 00:52:57,230 --> 00:52:54,900 goes to show that 1335 00:52:59,809 --> 00:52:57,240 people are not willing to take you at 1336 00:53:02,270 --> 00:52:59,819 your word even when you come out with 1337 00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:02,280 these things such as uh Jeremy the 1338 00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:04,140 documentary filmmaker way ahead of time 1339 00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:06,720 and the complaint is always oh is it 1340 00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:08,819 credible is it you know you're just 1341 00:53:13,309 --> 00:53:10,740 doing this to promote yourself 1342 00:53:16,010 --> 00:53:13,319 it's it's really unfortunate it's really 1343 00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:16,020 it just seems like the status quo if you 1344 00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,339 don't come out with absolutely 1345 00:53:23,329 --> 00:53:19,680 everything enclosure and complete 1346 00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:23,339 disclosure they automatically put you in 1347 00:53:29,569 --> 00:53:27,599 this arena with a bunch of quacks and I 1348 00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:29,579 I don't think this hap this seems to be 1349 00:53:34,210 --> 00:53:32,400 like on a cyclical basis with people 1350 00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:34,220 coming out with shared information 1351 00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:37,200 everybody trying to combat and debunk 1352 00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:40,440 them and hush them up and then another 1353 00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:42,839 surge it's almost like waves of this is 1354 00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:45,420 coming in and disclosure is literally 1355 00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,780 happening one drop at a time but it does 1356 00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:51,119 appear that there's indisputable 1357 00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:54,480 realization at least by the public that 1358 00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:56,040 there's something to it right where 1359 00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:58,920 there's smoke there's fire yeah how I've 1360 00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:01,680 heard some people uh I believe Herrera 1361 00:54:06,290 --> 00:54:03,660 was one of them that said if we don't 1362 00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:06,300 come out with all of this now that it 1363 00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:10,140 will not happen and that we make how 1364 00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:11,400 long do you think it's going gonna take 1365 00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,160 before everybody realizes or is 1366 00:54:22,609 --> 00:54:16,319 compelled to validate some of these 1367 00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,930 okay 1368 00:54:27,770 --> 00:54:25,920 um really it's his best guess at this 1369 00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:27,780 point I feel like the way the situation 1370 00:54:35,089 --> 00:54:32,099 plays out is gonna drastically uh be 1371 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,099 affected by how large the effort is and 1372 00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:37,520 how successful the information 1373 00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:39,900 tactics are I guess because we do have a 1374 00:54:44,329 --> 00:54:42,059 few factions here and I think the main 1375 00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:44,339 thing is going to be fighting algorithms 1376 00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:46,020 here because these factions you know 1377 00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:49,260 these people have essentially over not 1378 00:54:53,450 --> 00:54:50,819 for life is a better word advisor away 1379 00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:53,460 so you got people in Google YouTube all 1380 00:54:55,849 --> 00:54:54,780 these different search engines they're 1381 00:54:57,890 --> 00:54:55,859 probably being controlled with these 1382 00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:57,900 algorithms that are obscuring the real 1383 00:55:03,549 --> 00:54:59,400 information or the information you need 1384 00:55:06,049 --> 00:55:03,559 to do from the public so the thing with 1385 00:55:08,329 --> 00:55:06,059 people getting incredible information on 1386 00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:08,339 the community and in front of them is 1387 00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:10,200 going to be a big part of the story how 1388 00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:13,020 however I think psychologically a lot of 1389 00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,760 people right now they're even though 1390 00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:16,559 they have proven some of them it's not 1391 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:19,800 something that they are willing to open 1392 00:55:22,910 --> 00:55:21,240 up and I don't think it's because of the 1393 00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:22,920 alien question because of all the other 1394 00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:25,619 questions that come out do that and I I 1395 00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:27,780 have friends personally that I've shown 1396 00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:30,480 you know in the suitable evidence dozens 1397 00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:32,339 of times of these things too you know 1398 00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:34,440 the government whistleblower evidence 1399 00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,540 and they still always find the reason 1400 00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:39,119 they're an excuse as to why it doesn't 1401 00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:40,440 make any sense 1402 00:55:45,049 --> 00:55:43,140 um people's brains I think are rigged 1403 00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:45,059 right now in condition to find anything 1404 00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:47,819 they can to make this unbelievable uh 1405 00:55:51,410 --> 00:55:49,500 but when subconsciously I think they 1406 00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:51,420 know it's true I think there's anybody 1407 00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:55,200 noticed who does inside themselves 1408 00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:57,000 will realize that you know we're all one 1409 00:56:00,589 --> 00:55:58,500 connecting Consciousness we're not the 1410 00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:00,599 only ones out there they're most likely 1411 00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:03,540 been things here for a long time and 1412 00:56:09,770 --> 00:56:06,720 this most likely is not our planet so I 1413 00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:09,780 think that is built into our DNA in some 1414 00:56:13,609 --> 00:56:11,339 way or another if that makes any sense 1415 00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:13,619 and so I think it's a knowing that we 1416 00:56:17,089 --> 00:56:15,059 all have but right now we are 1417 00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:17,099 conditioned most of us conditioned in a 1418 00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:18,720 lot of ways to 1419 00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:22,079 essentially fight that knowing um 1420 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:24,359 consciously works up consciously so I 1421 00:56:28,370 --> 00:56:26,460 think a large portion of the victory 1422 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,380 here and getting this linchman and 1423 00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,720 Avalanche started is breaking that 1424 00:56:33,950 --> 00:56:33,000 mechanism inside of the American and 1425 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,960 worldwide 1426 00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:35,760 because I said things like logically 1427 00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:38,040 that one thing would be in my condition 1428 00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:39,720 is keeping a lot of people from 1429 00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:42,420 switching the light on and people who've 1430 00:56:46,910 --> 00:56:44,280 had experiences weird experiences like 1431 00:56:49,730 --> 00:56:46,920 you and me and lots of others 1432 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:49,740 um that those experiences a lot of the 1433 00:56:57,049 --> 00:56:54,420 time uh serve to turn off or or unhinge 1434 00:57:04,750 --> 00:56:57,059 that you date that has been conditioned 1435 00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:07,569 and so there is a Consciousness 1436 00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:10,380 expanding aspects of that and I think a 1437 00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,540 lot about this stuck essentially in this 1438 00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:14,160 Consciousness prison even though you 1439 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,020 know inside our DNA you know what the 1440 00:57:20,030 --> 00:57:18,240 truth is so we just need more people 1441 00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:20,040 were yelling the truth out there in the 1442 00:57:23,630 --> 00:57:21,119 right places 1443 00:57:25,089 --> 00:57:23,640 and I think it'll uh I think it'll get 1444 00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,099 the Paradigm to shift a little more 1445 00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:27,839 Super well said and you brought up 1446 00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:29,099 something really big which is 1447 00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,740 consciousness and you know sources have 1448 00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:32,640 said 1449 00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:34,020 that 1450 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:35,880 well basically 1451 00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:40,380 we have these craft however we are not 1452 00:57:48,049 --> 00:57:44,520 able to fly them and you know it's like 1453 00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,059 sending a cell phone back to the caveman 1454 00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:50,400 what are your thoughts on this do you 1455 00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,700 believe that we have reverse engineered 1456 00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:55,680 craft and are flying them or do you 1457 00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:56,940 think we're still just kind of looking 1458 00:58:02,690 --> 00:57:59,839 at them and figuring out how they work 1459 00:58:04,609 --> 00:58:02,700 so what I don't know all the information 1460 00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:04,619 but from what I've gathered we have 1461 00:58:08,210 --> 00:58:05,900 there's different 1462 00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:08,220 ways or different types of engines 1463 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,280 essentially that you can use to get the 1464 00:58:16,130 --> 00:58:12,960 FEMA stack out of these crafts right you 1465 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:16,140 got this anti-gravitational effects um 1466 00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:17,760 I think if you have the right materials 1467 00:58:22,609 --> 00:58:20,160 that are reverse engineered and you have 1468 00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:22,619 a science to be able to 1469 00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:25,680 essentially get this thing working or 1470 00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:27,180 approve 1471 00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:28,980 um you know the prospect of the crowds 1472 00:58:31,849 --> 00:58:30,540 it's the anti-grad aspect you would 1473 00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,859 still have to have a way to control it 1474 00:58:35,630 --> 00:58:33,839 you know and so there's Consciousness 1475 00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:35,640 bridge that they're talking about inside 1476 00:58:40,370 --> 00:58:38,460 of some of these crafts uh might serve 1477 00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:40,380 to be an issue because it I you know 1478 00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,660 work onto things obviously but some of 1479 00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:45,119 these crafts I've read you know from 1480 00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:46,920 investigating different accounts that 1481 00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,280 are controlled by Dr panels other crafts 1482 00:58:54,650 --> 00:58:52,799 like apparently what Phil Corso said you 1483 00:58:56,569 --> 00:58:54,660 know from Roswell is they got a headband 1484 00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,579 uh 1485 00:58:59,930 --> 00:58:58,319 different headbands essentially that 1486 00:59:01,970 --> 00:58:59,940 were put on the Pilot's heads in order 1487 00:59:04,670 --> 00:59:01,980 to I guess mine the bridge with these 1488 00:59:06,589 --> 00:59:04,680 crafts in order to drive them so I don't 1489 00:59:10,370 --> 00:59:06,599 know maybe if we've reverse engineered 1490 00:59:12,589 --> 00:59:10,380 our own Technologies or craft from the 1491 00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:12,599 Extraterrestrial ones if we've been able 1492 00:59:17,210 --> 00:59:15,660 to find a mechanism to control them I 1493 00:59:19,549 --> 00:59:17,220 think we have I think they'd be able to 1494 00:59:21,049 --> 00:59:19,559 do that in some way or another now 1495 00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:21,059 there's the other aspect whereas these 1496 00:59:26,049 --> 00:59:24,420 some of these aren't easy crafts uh that 1497 00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:26,059 maybe we don't know how to drive them 1498 00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:29,520 I've heard stories of you know accounts 1499 00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:31,020 of people driving these things and 1500 00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,480 getting lobotomized trying to drive them 1501 00:59:37,069 --> 00:59:35,280 because well our brains just aren't 1502 00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:37,079 built for these things or they're not 1503 00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:39,960 built for our brain or our Consciousness 1504 00:59:44,930 --> 00:59:43,260 and that's obviously hearsay but it 1505 00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:44,940 leads to the points like you know how do 1506 00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:46,500 we do we even know how to drive these 1507 00:59:50,450 --> 00:59:48,540 things and from what I've seen from the 1508 00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:50,460 hundreds thousands and thousands and 1509 00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:51,900 thousands of UFO videos I've seen 1510 00:59:56,569 --> 00:59:54,480 there's like a good percentage of these 1511 00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:56,579 videos where it looks like the things 1512 01:00:00,109 --> 00:59:58,260 you're hanging in the air and those 1513 01:00:02,450 --> 01:00:00,119 really know what's going on I want to 1514 01:00:05,210 --> 01:00:02,460 say that's a pattern especially with the 1515 01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:05,220 tr3b black single videos you there was 1516 01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:07,980 that one from uh 29 Palms last month 1517 01:00:12,589 --> 01:00:10,859 that one or was just hanging in the air 1518 01:00:14,210 --> 01:00:12,599 and that one seems that video 1519 01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:14,220 specifically seems like it was an 1520 01:00:18,530 --> 01:00:15,960 announcement or display of the 1521 01:00:19,849 --> 01:00:18,540 technology which I really don't 1522 01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:19,859 understand I've been able to figure that 1523 01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:22,020 out yet but a lot of the time these 1524 01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,520 things I've seen videos appear at these 1525 01:00:27,530 --> 01:00:25,740 3DS your pain in the air like like the 1526 01:00:29,329 --> 01:00:27,540 person just lost control of the steering 1527 01:00:31,250 --> 01:00:29,339 wheel or something you know like so I 1528 01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:31,260 don't know you know I I think there's 1529 01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:33,240 probably different types that we have 1530 01:00:36,829 --> 01:00:34,500 been able to figure out how to control 1531 01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,839 and I that there's a lot that we haven't 1532 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:38,160 do 1533 01:00:42,650 --> 01:00:40,260 um as many races as have been mentioned 1534 01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:42,660 in a lot of these accounts uh up until 1535 01:00:47,630 --> 01:00:44,940 like 83 to 200 efforts a lot of numbers 1536 01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:47,640 floated around by different people but 1537 01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,799 not as many races as we have essentially 1538 01:00:53,150 --> 01:00:51,359 that have been in contact with this 1539 01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:53,160 planning I mean there could be tons of 1540 01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,500 different types of Technologies we could 1541 01:01:00,049 --> 01:00:57,359 have nothing both technology we could 1542 01:01:01,970 --> 01:01:00,059 have you know purely Elemental causes 1543 01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:01,980 technology there could be so many things 1544 01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:04,079 in a lot of these races we we do know 1545 01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,000 and we've heard about you know all these 1546 01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,760 two-legged ones maybe uh humanoid ones 1547 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,799 but there could be lots of stuff out 1548 01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:12,720 there we just really can't even 1549 01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:14,460 understand there might be beings out 1550 01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,980 there or technologies that we will never 1551 01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:19,200 be able to comprehend because 1552 01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:20,880 we don't know at this point none of us 1553 01:01:30,370 --> 01:01:21,900 know 1554 01:01:34,430 --> 01:01:32,510 he's been saying that what do they call 1555 01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,440 him uh program life forms they're seeing 1556 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,760 a lot of the great aliens that are seen 1557 01:01:38,329 --> 01:01:36,960 it actually was just made by the 1558 01:01:40,670 --> 01:01:38,339 military with some of this technology 1559 01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:40,680 that they've uh reverse engineers in 1560 01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:42,960 these crashes so there's that too you 1561 01:01:45,770 --> 01:01:44,040 know they got the little gray aliens 1562 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:45,780 that are supposedly interdimensional but 1563 01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:47,880 they're also supposedly cyborg some of 1564 01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:49,980 them and then also some of them might be 1565 01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:52,500 really aliens I mean we just don't know 1566 01:01:57,650 --> 01:01:54,599 you know so until more information comes 1567 01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:57,660 out I'm trying not to stick to 1568 01:02:02,030 --> 01:01:59,880 my beliefs too or not have not have 1569 01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:02,040 beliefs too much I guess because yes I 1570 01:02:05,870 --> 01:02:03,900 think it's changed on a daily basis for 1571 01:02:07,730 --> 01:02:05,880 the most part a dozen times a day 1572 01:02:09,650 --> 01:02:07,740 um but these these crap and you know I 1573 01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:09,660 want to drive one it would make my job a 1574 01:02:13,789 --> 01:02:11,400 lot easier if I could have an anti-graph 1575 01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:13,799 technology I would definitely have to 1576 01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,260 work a lot less that would be cool yeah 1577 01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:18,000 man I don't I don't know man I don't 1578 01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:20,940 know I I think we'll see more of this 1579 01:02:24,349 --> 01:02:22,500 and I hope they announce these 1580 01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:24,359 Technologies within the next couple of 1581 01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:25,980 years but I think we have to get through 1582 01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:28,680 this for this little bout of getting it 1583 01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:32,160 into public site and kind of digested 1584 01:02:36,589 --> 01:02:34,740 and then push more and then maybe we'll 1585 01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:36,599 have them you know show us some of this 1586 01:02:40,490 --> 01:02:38,520 technology but if you read so of course 1587 01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:40,500 those day after Rockwell he talks about 1588 01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,660 the fact that you know some of our 1589 01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:44,400 technologies that we are using worldwide 1590 01:02:48,289 --> 01:02:46,740 on a daily basis right now reverse 1591 01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:48,299 engineered from 1592 01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:51,240 an alien craft I've never been debunkers 1593 01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:53,520 come out over the last you know 20 years 1594 01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,700 and essentially debunked Parsons claims 1595 01:02:59,930 --> 01:02:58,559 in that book about these different 1596 01:03:01,910 --> 01:02:59,940 Technologies 1597 01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:01,920 um and I thought that was the truth but 1598 01:03:05,450 --> 01:03:03,359 you know if you really think about it if 1599 01:03:07,789 --> 01:03:05,460 the rest of this stuff is real 1600 01:03:10,250 --> 01:03:07,799 maybe he wasn't lying maybe with some of 1601 01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:10,260 these Technologies just had happened to 1602 01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:13,260 have inventors put into history uh you 1603 01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,880 know to write edited history about this 1604 01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,799 guy invented fiber optics 1605 01:03:19,970 --> 01:03:18,000 um we don't really know where I came 1606 01:03:22,190 --> 01:03:19,980 from it could be another story behind it 1607 01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:22,200 and since the majority of our history 1608 01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:23,520 over the last hundred years has been 1609 01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:25,200 hidden from us and secured and twisted 1610 01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:26,760 I'd imagine that just about everything 1611 01:03:30,589 --> 01:03:29,040 else that you've heard that just seemed 1612 01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:30,599 like a crazy story it probably should be 1613 01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:32,640 working too I'm really interested in 1614 01:03:36,829 --> 01:03:34,680 World War II in the Nazis because yeah 1615 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:36,839 like everyone you know that everyone 1616 01:03:40,849 --> 01:03:38,700 normal people think Hitler died on the 1617 01:03:42,589 --> 01:03:40,859 bunker you know conspiracy theorists 1618 01:03:44,450 --> 01:03:42,599 think he died in Argentina or maybe 1619 01:03:46,970 --> 01:03:44,460 Antarctica but this brings up the 1620 01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,980 anarchical questions too so we just I 1621 01:03:50,750 --> 01:03:49,200 mean there's so many things right now it 1622 01:03:53,089 --> 01:03:50,760 just keeps going so if this is real 1623 01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,099 essentially the entirety of our reality 1624 01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:55,680 is a fairy tale in reality so that's 1625 01:03:59,089 --> 01:03:57,359 exciting to me man I hope that's 1626 01:04:02,270 --> 01:03:59,099 exciting to other people too because it 1627 01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:02,280 makes life a lot cooler than it is 1628 01:04:06,530 --> 01:04:03,960 presented to us that we're supposed to 1629 01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:06,540 believe you know gives us more power is 1630 01:04:12,049 --> 01:04:09,839 people gives us a lot more hope gives us 1631 01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,059 a lot more strength as a culture and the 1632 01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:15,119 society together as a planet and so you 1633 01:04:18,349 --> 01:04:16,559 know there's like nothing bad that comes 1634 01:04:20,089 --> 01:04:18,359 from this besides that we get rid of a 1635 01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:20,099 bunch of really shitty people that have 1636 01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:21,660 been in power for a long time which I 1637 01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:23,760 don't have a problem with so 1638 01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:27,180 man so true and I know that you 1639 01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:29,760 um were going a little bit over and that 1640 01:04:33,890 --> 01:04:32,099 you are on site just got done with some 1641 01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:33,900 work so I don't wanna I don't want to 1642 01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,180 keep you too long but as we wrap up I 1643 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,640 too would love to fly the craft I hear 1644 01:04:44,030 --> 01:04:41,520 you I loved Grant Cameron's uh book UFO 1645 01:04:45,470 --> 01:04:44,040 Sky pilots and I'm actually personally 1646 01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:45,480 friends with somebody that was in that 1647 01:04:50,809 --> 01:04:48,059 book that claims to have flown these 1648 01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:50,819 craft so there is that going on 1649 01:04:54,410 --> 01:04:52,440 um he's actually in Utah he's based out 1650 01:04:56,510 --> 01:04:54,420 of Utah his name is Ron Johnson he lives 1651 01:04:57,890 --> 01:04:56,520 down in price yeah we'll have to talk 1652 01:05:00,530 --> 01:04:57,900 about that 1653 01:05:03,530 --> 01:05:00,540 um what's interesting is that yeah the 1654 01:05:05,390 --> 01:05:03,540 controls like you said at 29 Palms in 1655 01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:05,400 that video it seems as if that craft is 1656 01:05:10,430 --> 01:05:07,920 hanging in midair and even though the 29 1657 01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:10,440 Palms video is two years old it seemed 1658 01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:12,960 very similar to Scott tappy's footage 1659 01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:15,240 here in Las Vegas just about a month ago 1660 01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:17,700 what I've heard and this is coming from 1661 01:05:23,030 --> 01:05:19,859 pretty high UPS uh 1662 01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:23,040 you know GS 15 and above and this again 1663 01:05:28,849 --> 01:05:24,900 this is coming second and third person 1664 01:05:31,609 --> 01:05:28,859 uh into my realm of information but what 1665 01:05:33,650 --> 01:05:31,619 I've heard is you know that yeah this 1666 01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:33,660 Consciousness aspect of flying the craft 1667 01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:36,119 as Ron Johnson has claimed is more 1668 01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:40,020 difficult and that our guys are top men 1669 01:05:44,569 --> 01:05:42,420 um feel a lot more comfortable flying 1670 01:05:47,770 --> 01:05:44,579 the craft with Believe It or Not game 1671 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:47,780 controllers like you find with an Xbox 1672 01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:51,599 yeah yeah like an Xbox or a PlayStation 1673 01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,480 and it makes total sense too yeah and 1674 01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,400 they prefer them Wireless and it 1675 01:06:00,289 --> 01:05:58,559 sometimes the batteries wear out or 1676 01:06:01,970 --> 01:06:00,299 whatever or need to be changed and it's 1677 01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:01,980 those moments when the thing is just 1678 01:06:08,450 --> 01:06:05,180 hanging in midair like you know like 1679 01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:08,460 you know again like I said it's probably 1680 01:06:13,730 --> 01:06:11,520 so true sometimes the truth is Stranger 1681 01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:13,740 Than Fiction sometimes man it makes you 1682 01:06:18,289 --> 01:06:15,000 really wonder 1683 01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:18,299 um okay so lastly as we as we wrap up 1684 01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:20,520 um the sources have said that they 1685 01:06:25,789 --> 01:06:22,380 suspect that the Chinese and Russians 1686 01:06:29,210 --> 01:06:25,799 have also retrieved uh reverse 1687 01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,220 engineered materials and craft and that 1688 01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:31,200 we are fighting a very real cold war 1689 01:06:35,089 --> 01:06:33,180 behind the scenes what are your thoughts 1690 01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:35,099 about that 1691 01:06:39,289 --> 01:06:37,319 uh I mean I would tend to believe that I 1692 01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:39,299 mean if you look at uh let's just say 1693 01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:40,400 our history 1694 01:06:46,490 --> 01:06:44,160 in modern history humans have a tendency 1695 01:06:48,049 --> 01:06:46,500 to behave this way especially in 1696 01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:48,059 geopolitical situations where you have 1697 01:06:51,470 --> 01:06:49,440 you know there's a lot of these 1698 01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:51,480 politicians such a good path in my 1699 01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:52,380 opinion 1700 01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:54,960 and uh so 1701 01:06:59,150 --> 01:06:57,119 you have the cover-up going on here you 1702 01:07:00,829 --> 01:06:59,160 see dozens hundreds of situations with 1703 01:07:03,289 --> 01:07:00,839 our government and intelligent agencies 1704 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:03,299 have covered up even the most mundane 1705 01:07:08,510 --> 01:07:06,240 things so I mean to tell you the truth 1706 01:07:09,470 --> 01:07:08,520 we're all humans there's no reason why 1707 01:07:11,329 --> 01:07:09,480 that wouldn't be happening in other 1708 01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:11,339 countries I'm sure Russia and China have 1709 01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:14,220 access to these things too I think what 1710 01:07:19,609 --> 01:07:17,220 we're not seeing though is 1711 01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,619 maybe not a cold war but a Mexican 1712 01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:21,839 standoff I think is what they call it 1713 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,000 um where essentially that no one's able 1714 01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:26,400 to pull the trigger because it might 1715 01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,680 race 1716 01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:30,240 essentially destroying our entire planet 1717 01:07:33,529 --> 01:07:31,380 um some of these weapons that have been 1718 01:07:36,529 --> 01:07:33,539 talked about uh in the press conference 1719 01:07:39,410 --> 01:07:36,539 a few days ago and over the last 1720 01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:39,420 few years up to 20 years ago 1721 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,799 um that have been talked about some 1722 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,480 people coming out some of these weapons 1723 01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:44,160 scale our weapons we have energy weapons 1724 01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:45,599 you know plasma weapons all these 1725 01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,000 different types of technology that have 1726 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:51,200 a much larger 1727 01:07:57,049 --> 01:07:54,480 effective range in depth of effects than 1728 01:07:58,910 --> 01:07:57,059 a nuclear weapon would so I mean you 1729 01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,920 might have a situation where there's 1730 01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,720 multiple countries like Russia China and 1731 01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:03,119 America that all have these essentially 1732 01:08:06,770 --> 01:08:04,760 Planet destroying 1733 01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,780 Technologies and maybe no one's willing 1734 01:08:10,849 --> 01:08:08,400 to use them because it risks everybody 1735 01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,859 else I'm not really sure 1736 01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:12,960 um it's hard to tell how accurate these 1737 01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:14,160 things are you know what types of 1738 01:08:18,349 --> 01:08:15,839 weapons they are you know how much they 1739 01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:18,359 use but the man that was talking the 1740 01:08:21,169 --> 01:08:19,920 past continuous press conference today I 1741 01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:21,179 was talking about the fact that you know 1742 01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:22,440 they're able to cause earthquakes or 1743 01:08:26,090 --> 01:08:23,759 some of these machines which brings them 1744 01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:26,100 to question quite a few different events 1745 01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,100 and the courses the last 20 years an 1746 01:08:33,410 --> 01:08:31,440 earthquake earthquake in Haiti come up 1747 01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:33,420 in my mind when they talk about these 1748 01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:34,620 kinds of weapons 1749 01:08:38,570 --> 01:08:37,380 um and I I 100 on my life believe that 1750 01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,580 those guys are telling the truth and 1751 01:08:42,169 --> 01:08:40,560 these things are real uh we need to open 1752 01:08:46,430 --> 01:08:42,179 up analytico because if these weapons 1753 01:08:48,349 --> 01:08:46,440 are being used uh to divert and twist 1754 01:08:50,450 --> 01:08:48,359 public discourse in history then we need 1755 01:08:52,849 --> 01:08:50,460 to we need to stop that and address it 1756 01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:52,859 because your scalar weapons man you know 1757 01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,060 the things they're talking about as far 1758 01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:57,120 as these wave weapons go uh the Zero 1759 01:09:01,910 --> 01:08:59,279 Point Energy weapon kill there dangerous 1760 01:09:04,729 --> 01:09:01,920 and I think their orders of magnitude 1761 01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,739 more dangerous than the weapons that we 1762 01:09:09,410 --> 01:09:06,719 currently have access to at least as far 1763 01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:09,420 as the public knows so yeah it's a it's 1764 01:09:12,530 --> 01:09:11,040 a scary situation that's where the scary 1765 01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:12,540 part of it comes into because we don't 1766 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:14,699 know how many times these weapons have 1767 01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:15,600 been used 1768 01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:18,420 um if these weapons really get colon to 1769 01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:20,699 question 911 too 911 didn't make a lot 1770 01:09:25,070 --> 01:09:21,500 of sense 1771 01:09:26,809 --> 01:09:25,080 uh you know you have beauty Beauty buff 1772 01:09:28,610 --> 01:09:26,819 you wrote a book about a 1773 01:09:31,729 --> 01:09:28,620 you know the Twin Towers or they were 1774 01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,739 accounts of you know cars being melted 1775 01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,600 to the streets up to like a quarter mile 1776 01:09:37,849 --> 01:09:36,000 away from I I'm probably kind of wrong 1777 01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,859 about that it's a long time since we had 1778 01:09:42,410 --> 01:09:39,779 the best but essentially you know there 1779 01:09:44,209 --> 01:09:42,420 was evidence on 911 uh direct energy 1780 01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:44,219 weapons being used or something along 1781 01:09:49,870 --> 01:09:45,359 those lines 1782 01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:52,249 a lot of things in the question 1783 01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:54,360 um and I think we're gonna eventually 1784 01:09:58,970 --> 01:09:56,699 maybe not very soon but in the near 1785 01:10:01,790 --> 01:09:58,980 future be 1786 01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:01,800 um alerted about a large amount of false 1787 01:10:06,490 --> 01:10:03,300 flags that have probably occurred 1788 01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:06,500 because of these weapons 1789 01:10:13,310 --> 01:10:10,080 man I think I think you make some good 1790 01:10:15,229 --> 01:10:13,320 points as always Josh I absolutely love 1791 01:10:17,689 --> 01:10:15,239 our conversations I appreciate you going 1792 01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:17,699 over time with us I know you're just 1793 01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:18,480 getting 1794 01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:20,400 um off a site and some and some things 1795 01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:23,760 you're in into there and I I think you 1796 01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,800 made great points I love the work you're 1797 01:10:30,590 --> 01:10:27,600 doing if people haven't heard our 1798 01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:30,600 previous podcast about your uh possible 1799 01:10:34,189 --> 01:10:32,219 finding into 1800 01:10:36,649 --> 01:10:34,199 um deep underground at least uh 1801 01:10:37,729 --> 01:10:36,659 underground facilities possible uh 1802 01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:37,739 openings 1803 01:10:42,530 --> 01:10:40,560 um that are in and around Utah there uh 1804 01:10:44,209 --> 01:10:42,540 definitely check out that podcast with 1805 01:10:47,209 --> 01:10:44,219 Josh he always has a bunch of great 1806 01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:47,219 points we'll have to come back and uh 1807 01:10:52,610 --> 01:10:50,580 get some more info uh about this because 1808 01:10:55,010 --> 01:10:52,620 it keeps moving man and you're you're 1809 01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:55,020 it's a moving Target and you are uh 1810 01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:56,840 doing a really good job of keeping the 1811 01:11:02,689 --> 01:10:59,760 pulse on it so thanks so much for taking 1812 01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:02,699 time out of your busy day Josh yeah um 1813 01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:04,260 yeah I appreciate that I'm doing more 1814 01:11:10,689 --> 01:11:05,760 work up here in the mountains I can tell 1815 01:11:17,570 --> 01:11:13,970 you can hit me up on Twitter my username 1816 01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:17,580 is a greywave33 uh I just got Twitter I 1817 01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:19,440 got into UFO Twitter so you guys if 1818 01:11:23,149 --> 01:11:21,600 anyone listen to this add me on there um 1819 01:11:25,250 --> 01:11:23,159 but yeah I appreciate it man good luck 1820 01:11:26,270 --> 01:11:25,260 to you stay safe and uh Thunder on 1821 01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:26,280 Tuesdays 1822 01:11:31,550 --> 01:11:29,040 there it is ladies and gentlemen Josh 1823 01:11:35,689 --> 01:11:31,560 going into it with us the one the only 1824 01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:35,699 elevated Josh from Utah and having a 1825 01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:38,960 whole lot of insight into the situation 1826 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:42,239 with the whistleblowers and of course 1827 01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:45,840 the Vegas Alien Encounter this will most 1828 01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:48,480 likely only get better and the plot 1829 01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:50,880 seems to thicken I don't think the case 1830 01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:52,260 is over yet 1831 01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,320 definitely stay tuned for future 1832 01:12:00,770 --> 01:11:57,600 episodes and until next time keep your 1833 01:12:10,270 --> 01:12:00,780 eyes to the skies feet on the ground but 1834 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:19,550 [Music]